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    Oh dear...

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2006...on.tuitionfees

    Tuition fees likely to hit £5k, and possibly as high as £7k. I guess the debts that kids are leaving college with are not deemed to be high enough.

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    Considering that a lot of freshly qualified grads are not going to find any decent jobs, and that those who do (because they did a hard science perhaps) are still going to fight for the 15-20K entry positions in their chosen field, I can see a large amount of students pondering "what's the point ?"

    If the amount of jobs increased, and the salaries to boot, then perhaps it may be worth it.

    This is not going to leave students better off. Quite the reverse in fact.

    It is an effective policy in demotivating our future generations from bothering to get a good education, when the risks increase and yet the carrot at the end of it stays the same size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Board Game Geek View Post
    Considering that a lot of freshly qualified grads are not going to find any decent jobs, and that those who do (because they did a hard science perhaps) are still going to fight for the 15-20K entry positions in their chosen field, I can see a large amount of students pondering "what's the point ?"

    If the amount of jobs increased, and the salaries to boot, then perhaps it may be worth it.

    This is not going to leave students better off. Quite the reverse in fact.

    It is an effective policy in demotivating our future generations from bothering to get a good education, when the risks increase and yet the carrot at the end of it stays the same size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruprect View Post
    Keep the populus stupid. Its the way forward.
    populace.

    Quite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PM-Junkie View Post
    Oh dear...

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2006...on.tuitionfees

    Tuition fees likely to hit £5k, and possibly as high as £7k. I guess the debts that kids are leaving college with are not deemed to be high enough.

    Scotland anyone?
    The problem with our education system isn't just the cost of studying and the amounts of debts the students will incur, it's the numpty qualifications that are considered which will lead to getting the students jobs in McDonalds (and similar organisations).
    If your company is the best place to work in, for a mere £500 p/d, you can advertise here.

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    There really is no point in doing "soft" degrees any more.

    I'd even go so far as to say there's no point in doing a "non-vocational" (by vocational I mean, Nursing, Teaching, Medicine, Architecture etc) degree unless you know what you want to do with it.

    The trouble is, at the age you decide what you want to do at university most kids haven't given a second thought to what they want to do with their lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmeswani View Post
    The problem with our education system isn't just the cost of studying and the amounts of debts the students will incur, it's the numpty qualifications that are considered which will lead to getting the students jobs in McDonalds (and similar organisations).


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    Quote Originally Posted by sasguru View Post
    populace.

    Quite.
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