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    #11
    Originally posted by zeitghost
    Gad, Sir.

    Mr Palmerston would have sent a gunboat.

    Manned with chaps not afraid to fire their guns at the fuzzywuzzies.

    No wonder the country has gone to the dogs.

    I blame Disraeli.
    “The Schleswig-Holstein question is so complicated, only three men in Europe have ever understood it. One was Prince Albert, who is dead. The second was a German professor who became mad. I am the third and I have forgotten all about it.”

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      #12
      Originally posted by Churchill View Post
      Wrong vessel(and crew) for the job. The RFA are not Royal Navy personnel.

      Hth.



      There may have been a small complement of marines on-board for self defence of the vessel.
      Just had a look up about this. How confusing, RN flag, armed and uniformed by RN, using RN ships but not RN...
      "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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        #13
        Originally posted by Paddy View Post
        Just had a look up about this. How confusing, RN flag, armed and uniformed by RN, using RN ships but not RN...
        What's confusing about it?

        The RFA is a civilian-manned flotilla that is owned by the Ministry of Defence and answerable to Commander in Chief Fleet.

        The clue is in the names "Royal Fleet Auxiliary" and not "Royal Navy".

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          #14
          The primary goal of any RFA ship is to protect the ship.

          Lose a tender, and you ruin the operational capability of any number (well, up to 10 or so) of warships.

          Chasing after pirates with RPGs in a fuel tanker is not a good idea.
          ‎"See, you think I give a tulip. Wrong. In fact, while you talk, I'm thinking; How can I give less of a tulip? That's why I look interested."

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            #15
            Originally posted by swamp View Post
            You won't find the Royal (G)Navy doing this:
            Watch it! My eldest son is in the Royal Navy... and we're fairly sure he's not gay.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Moscow Mule View Post

              Chasing after pirates with RPGs in a fuel tanker is not a good idea.
              Quite so. What one has to remember is that the Navy of the 21st Century is a lot different to that of previous ages. By way of comparison, I googled a bit and found the following :-

              After a spot check of the lockers of the crew of HMS Hood, carried out in February 1940, the following inventory of items that could reasonably be described as "contraband" was found :-

              378 Tobacco Pipes
              322 Tobacco Pouches (14 made of real skin!!)
              299 Hip Flasks
              281 Bottles of Rum
              212 (non-issue) Knives
              171 copies of Beardwaxers Monthly
              143 Shaving Razors
              126 Teddy Bears
              98 Golliwogs
              77 Telescopes
              61 Piggy Banks
              55 Tubs of Vaseline
              40 Lucky Rabbits Feet
              29 Clockwork Mermaids
              24 pairs of silk stockings
              17 gerbils
              14 ferrets
              9 parrots
              7 wooden legs
              6 chickens
              4 party frocks
              3 pearl-handled revolvers
              2 stowaways
              and a nubbin!!!

              On a similar exercise, performed on HMS Kent in March 2010, we got an altogether different list :-

              446 Nintendo DS
              431 Sets of curling tongs
              411 jars of hairgel
              403 Pairs of high heeled shoes
              389 Ipods
              377 earrings
              346 digital photoframes
              322 baseball caps
              309 "Village People" duvet sets
              286 Yoyos
              271 Hair extensions
              254 Simon Cowell posters
              230 Boxed sets of Strictly Come Dancing DVDs
              211 boxes of fabric conditioner
              202 jars of hair colouring dye (mostly honey blonde!)
              183 bottles of WKD blue
              152 assorted lovebeads
              136 guitars
              119 hamsters
              108 syringes
              101 tubes of flavoured KY Jelly
              94 Ecstasy tablets
              81 stuffed animals
              73 copies of BullBuggerer Monthly
              62 inflatable sheep
              50 Man Bags
              41 rampant rabbits
              36 electric toothbrushes
              28 false breasts (chicken fillets)
              17 harmonicas
              11 budgies
              8 musical goblins
              5 calling birds
              3 tarantulas
              2 sprigs of lucky heather
              and a "Kiss-Me-Quick" hat from Skegness 1977

              So it is easy to see just how the Navy has evolved. Of course, since they abolished the Royal Marine presence aboard ships and replaced them with plenty of homosexuals and Wrens, the whole experience of being at sea has changed and adapted. There is now much less of a war footing, and more of a touchy-feely, booze-cruisey, Love Boat kind of a feel to it.
              So it is a bit harsh to point the finger at the lack of cutting edge when one considers this backdrop. So just lay off!!!
              “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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                #17
                BBC News - Russian forces storm tanker seized by Somali pirates

                "Russian forces have freed the crew of a Russian oil tanker seized by Somali pirates off the coast of Yemen, in a dramatic rescue operation.

                Forces on the Russian warship Marshal Shaposhnikov approached the tanker with 23 Russian crew on board by helicopter.

                As they did so, the pirates opened fire, sparking a shoot-out.

                The Russian forces then abseiled onto the Moscow University tanker, freeing the crew who had locked themselves in a safe room after disabling their ship"
                "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Paddy View Post
                  BBC News - Russian forces storm tanker seized by Somali pirates

                  "Russian forces have freed the crew of a Russian oil tanker seized by Somali pirates off the coast of Yemen, in a dramatic rescue operation.

                  Forces on the Russian warship Marshal Shaposhnikov approached the tanker with 23 Russian crew on board by helicopter.

                  As they did so, the pirates opened fire, sparking a shoot-out.

                  The Russian forces then abseiled onto the Moscow University tanker, freeing the crew who had locked themselves in a safe room after disabling their ship"
                  Ten pirates have been arrested, says the BBC's Richard Galpin in Moscow. They are currently being held aboard the tanker, Russian defence ministry spokesman Col Alexei Kuznetsov said.

                  They will be transferred to Moscow to face charges, reports say.
                  They will be ejected from a helicopter at a great height mid-ocean would be better


                  Really suprised there were pirate survivors though - certain they would have adopted the Iranian Embassy Siege method of dealing with hostage taking
                  How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Troll View Post
                    They will be ejected from a helicopter at a great height mid-ocean would be better


                    Really suprised there were pirate survivors though - certain they would have adopted the Iranian Embassy Siege method of dealing with hostage taking
                    There was one survivor.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Troll View Post
                      Really suprised there were pirate survivors though - certain they would have adopted the Iranian Embassy Siege method of dealing with hostage taking
                      Russian way of dealing with hostage taking situations is to indeed to kill attackers whilst disregarding safety of hostages.

                      Russian crew knew that so they locked themselves into a safe room.

                      More here: Beslan school hostage crisis - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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