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    I have to say, when I read the initial newspapers with the picture of this chap, I was amazed that the guy would landed up working in a school. Then read the case

    It was back in 1980, had a GF who was 15/16 who he later married and stayed married to for 19 years and has three kids!!!!!!!!!

    So he's on the register and she passd him to teach(quite rightly). Its not exactly the same slant the newspapers put on it is it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarillionFan
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    I have to say, when I read the initial newspapers with the picture of this chap, I was amazed that the guy would landed up working in a school. Then read the case

    It was back in 1980, had a GF who was 15/16 who he later married and stayed married to for 19 years and has three kids!!!!!!!!!

    So he's on the register and she passd him to teach(quite rightly). Its not exactly the same slant the newspapers put on it is it.

    Reminds me of Brass Eye
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    What do you mean? The papers/media never bend the truth do they?
    AtW taught me that if it's in the paper it must be true.........

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    Problem with having a criminal conviction of that sort is that it automatically destroys reputation and thus it is impossible to sue for libel/slander as one has to have reputation to lose and presense of conviction of that sort automatically whacks it ...

    But the guy had balls to come forward and talk - as you can see BBC published about him so he got his side of story and I think there will be actually some sympathy for him even though on balance its probably best to lower age of consent rather than allow convicted for sex offences to teach in school.

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    Now, now, MF, you want to be careful saying things like that in the current climate. Defending people who have already been branded as a menace to children will lead to one of two things: at best people will say to you "well obviously you don't have children and wouldn't understand" and at worse you will be told "well you're obviously a paedophile as well then".

    As some members of this board have stated, children must be protected at all costs, no matter what the consequences and if some innocent people have their lives destroyed well that's a price worth paying and after all there's no smoke without fire.

    As the two biggest killers and/or abusers of children (by far) are the car and their own parents, presumably these model risk-assessing parents never allow their children to get in a car or be left alone with themselves.

    After all, we'll have no judgemental hypocrites here, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtW
    Problem with having a criminal conviction of that sort is that it automatically destroys reputation and thus it is impossible to sue for libel/slander as one has to have reputation to lose and presense of conviction of that sort automatically whacks it ...

    But if he's in the right surely you told us that he will definately win!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix
    But if he's in the right surely you told us that he will definately win!
    He can still sue but he won't get big reward since he lacks reputation due to previous conviction -- hardly the same case as Sven's who did not even try to deny the words quoted in papers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AtW
    He can still sue but he won't get big reward since he lacks reputation due to previous conviction -- hardly the same case as Sven's who did not even try to deny the words quoted in papers.
    I bet if it was you, you would win

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    I have to agree with MF..... the innocence of the 'child' has to be questioned and the whole circumstances taken into consideration before damning someone in such a way.... obviously not true for a LOT of cases though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumner
    I have to agree with MF..... the innocence of the 'child' has to be questioned and the whole circumstances taken into consideration before damning someone in such a way.... obviously not true for a LOT of cases though...
    If it's not true for this case, how can you be so sure it is for the others?

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