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    #11
    1975 Newsweek articleAn April 28, 1975 article in Newsweek magazine was titled [25] "The Cooling World", it pointed to "ominous signs that the Earth's weather patterns have begun to change" and pointed to "a drop of half a degree [Fahrenheit] in average ground temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere between 1945 and 1968." The article claimed "The evidence in support of these predictions [of global cooling] has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it." The Newsweek article did not state the cause of cooling; it stated that "what causes the onset of major and minor ice ages remains a mystery" and cited the NAS conclusion that "not only are the basic scientific questions largely unanswered, but in many cases we do not yet know enough to pose the key questions."

    The article mentioned the alternative solutions of "melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting Arctic rivers" but conceded these were not feasible. The Newsweek article concluded by criticizing government leaders: "But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies...The longer the planners (politicians) delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality." The article emphasized sensational and largely unsourced consequences - "resulting famines could be catastrophic", "drought and desolation," "the most devastating outbreak of tornadoes ever recorded", "droughts, floods, extended dry spells, long freezes, delayed monsoons," "impossible for starving peoples to migrate," "the present decline has taken the planet about a sixth of the way toward the Ice Age."[25]

    On October 23, 2006, Newsweek issued a correction, over 31 years after the original article, stating that it had been "so spectacularly wrong about the near-term future" (though editor Jerry Adler claimed that 'the story wasn't "wrong" in the journalistic sense of "inaccurate."'





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      #12
      Is there a worse global warming denier argument than the '70s global cooling' myth?

      There was no scientific consensus in the 1970s that the Earth was headed into an imminent ice age. Indeed, the possibility of anthropogenic warming dominated the peer-reviewed literature even then.
      Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, Sep 2008

      Even the main Popular Science book of the time 'The Cooling' promoting the idea wasn't entirely certain. Here's the preface:-

      The Cooling will be controversial, because among scientists, most of the matters it deals with are hotly debated. There is no agreement on whether the earth is cooling. There is not unanimous agreement on whether is has cooled, or one hemisphere has cooled and the other warmed. One would think that there might be consensus about what data there is - but there is not. There is no agreement on the causes of climatic change, or even why it should not change amongst those who so maintain. There is certainly no agreement about what the climate will do in the next century, though there is a majority opinion that it will change, more or less, one way or the other. .

      Perhaps you, with your single Newsweek article, were hoping for a comparison with the situation today, with 97% of climate scientists and near enough 100% of the literature in support of the reality of GW?

      Sorry.
      Last edited by pjclarke; 2 March 2011, 21:26.
      My subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own.

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        #13
        see, what you are failing to understand, is that some of us looked at that stuff at the time. It was the latest news to us.

        we did not have hindsight , google, computers, or ready access to the literature. we didnt even have digital watches.

        This was the latest truth. except it wasnt true.

        So for people like me, who have lived through several cycles of your bullsh1t, you are going to have to persuade me, you are going to have to try a lot harder. we will not be bullied or browbeaten any more



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          #14
          Whatever. You left off a link to the wiki article, here t'is. Global cooling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

          Concern peaked in the early 1970s, partly because of the cooling trend then apparent (a cooling period began in 1945, and two decades of a cooling trend suggested a trough had been reached after several decades of warming), and partly because much less was then known about world climate and causes of ice ages. Although there was a cooling trend then, climate scientists were aware that predictions based on this trend were not possible - because the trend was poorly studied and not understood (for example see reference[11]). However in the popular press the possibility of cooling was reported generally without the caveats present in the scientific reports.
          An article in Time, another in Newsweek, couple of books. Perhaps the moral is 'Don't believe all you read in the press'?
          My subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own.

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            #15
            Originally posted by NickFitz View Post
            Sir Isaac Newton called - he wants his Clockwork Universe back
            Quite.
            Not that your post was really understood by these complete morons.
            Hard Brexit now!
            #prayfornodeal

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              #16
              Anyhoo, Northern Europe is predicted to warm most rapidly in winter, and before you jump in with the obvious knee-jerk response, I would point out that seven out of the last 10 European winters (and 10/10 summers btw) have been warmer than the long term average. Climate is like that. Long term.

              Right so if I win the lottery and there's a Scottish Ski resort for sale, I should laugh and give it a wide berth, but if there's 200 acres of land for sale with the right soil, I should buy it, and plant grape vines and olive trees on it and cash in on selling fine scottish wines and olive oil.



              At last, the science is useful!

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                #17
                Tom Bruce-Gardyne on making wine in Scotland - Herald Scotland | Life & Style | Food & Drink

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by EternalOptimist View Post
                  we will not be bullied or browbeaten any more



                  Yes you will be. You're too insignificant to start a rebellion.
                  The AGW conspiracy will oppress and tax you to the hilt.
                  You are the AGW conspiracy's Biatch.
                  Now bend over and take what's coming to you like the gimp you are.

                  HTH
                  Hard Brexit now!
                  #prayfornodeal

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                    #19
                    http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ml#post1291319
                    Originally posted by MaryPoppins
                    I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
                    Originally posted by vetran
                    Urine is quite nourishing

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                      #20
                      WGAS. Fook orf, you silly little God-botherer!
                      Last edited by sasguru; 3 March 2011, 12:15.
                      Hard Brexit now!
                      #prayfornodeal

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