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UK's debts 'biggest in the world

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    #31
    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    What a softie he is
    Actually he is a she.

    She is German.

    She wears kinky boots and skin tight trousies. Perhaps you should try it.
    "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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      #32
      Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
      Actually he is a she.

      She is German.

      She wears kinky boots and skin tight trousies. Perhaps you should try it.
      Will you lot ever learn!!! FFS. You cant make posts like that without pictures!
      Just saying like.

      where there's chaos, there's cash !

      I could agree with you, but then we would both be wrong!

      Lowering the tone since 1963

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        #33
        This thread enhancement brought to you courtesy of MTT Enterprises Inc.
        And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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          #34
          Originally posted by zeitghost
          Don't forget the Workhouses.
          Stop giving SG ideas....

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            #35
            Record low interest rates and the creation of £275bn of new money through the quantitative easing programme have made it possible for us to live with our debts - cheap money has made the debts bearable.
            This whole concept of "cheap money" is close to a complete nonsense.

            i) Generating £275bn of new money has increased inflation to something like 5.5% - which is fantastic for servicing existing debts (particularly where the rate is <5.5%) ONLY if your income increases at the same rate, or greater than that of inflation. So in other words, unless you're on benefits or a pension in real terms you're probably worse off.

            ii) "Record low interest rates" refers to the Base Rate of Interest, which yet again the average punter doesn't get a sniff of. Banks (for obvious reasons) are applying a more conservative approach to lending money which means people seeking to buy a house with a high LTV are penalised through interest rates, those who have a reasonable deposit (e.g. 20%+) can gain to some extent but even under these circumstances typical mortgage rates are 4.5% (4% above the current base rate).

            By comparison, 15 years ago with the base rate at 2.5% I was able to secure a mortgage at 5.25% with a 10% deposit, I'd be hard pushed to find a similar deal now.

            I'm not therefore convinced that personal debt is more easily serviced now than at any other point in the last 15+ years...
            Proud owner of +5 Xeno Geek Points

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              #36
              You know your country is in trouble

              When a tube worker earns £50K a year and a person collecting your garbage is way well off and gets free ipad and stuff. Sticky wages is making any government expenditure ridiculously expensive. This is increasing the actual debt required to do simple things like maintaing a station by a huge factor. Immigration, Education, DVLA appear to be the most profitable source of revenue atm. But looks like they are messing about with the first two already effectively creating a ditch for themselves.

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                #37
                Originally posted by pangeakiller View Post
                When a tube worker earns £50K a year and a person collecting your garbage is way well off and gets free ipad and stuff. Sticky wages is making any government expenditure ridiculously expensive. This is increasing the actual debt required to do simple things like maintaing a station by a huge factor.
                There's a Plan B for someone who sets up another underground in competition, paying lower wages and not employing shifty layabouts like that Bob Crow or Red Robbo.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by pangeakiller View Post
                  When a tube worker earns £50K a year and a person collecting your garbage is way well off and gets free ipad and stuff. Sticky wages is making any government expenditure ridiculously expensive. This is increasing the actual debt required to do simple things like maintaing a station by a huge factor. Immigration, Education, DVLA appear to be the most profitable source of revenue atm. But looks like they are messing about with the first two already effectively creating a ditch for themselves.
                  Er, how is education a source of revenue? After the NHS, pensions and welfare it's the 4th largest chunk of what the government spends. I suspect immigration isn't terribly profitable either.
                  While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                    The only solution is to go for growth. Cut red tape. Cut taxes.

                    Better than the existing "solution" of printing money and trying to inflate our way out of the debt mess.
                    The trouble is, the idea that the government can "promote growth" is actually a myth. The only thing the government can do to add to GDP is to borrow money and spend it. This mathematically increases GDP, but it's not productive growth.
                    "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It’s the s*** that happens while you’re waiting for moments that never come." -- Lester Freamon

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