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    I need advice from the seasoned hard-asses on this board.

    Currently working as a team of 4 contractors, 3 of us are clearly experts in our field and spend all day in busy, in depth conversations and activities creating the solution. We lead meetings with the permies and are worth every penny. The fourth does bugger all, his minimal skills, has clearly BS'd his CV to get there, has produced one diagram in 6 weeks and could be replaced by a cardboard cutout without any impact to the project.

    Do we:
    a) Point out his uselessness to the Clientco and get rid of him?
    b) Point out his uselessness to the Clientco and get rid of him and offer to do his work for an increase in our rate?
    c) Leave it to the permies to work it out for themselves, if they ever do?
    d) Live and let live, it's not our problem, although it is sort of because i have to do his work for him.

    What's the best path in this situation oh wise ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mupps View Post
    I need advice from the seasoned hard-asses on this board.

    Currently working as a team of 4 contractors, 3 of us are clearly experts in our field and spend all day in busy, in depth conversations and activities creating the solution. We lead meetings with the permies and are worth every penny. The fourth does bugger all, his minimal skills, has clearly BS'd his CV to get there, has produced one diagram in 6 weeks and could be replaced by a cardboard cutout without any impact to the project.

    Do we:
    a) Point out his uselessness to the Clientco and get rid of him?
    b) Point out his uselessness to the Clientco and get rid of him and offer to do his work for an increase in our rate?
    c) Leave it to the permies to work it out for themselves, if they ever do?
    d) Live and let live, it's not our problem, although it is sort of because i have to do his work for him.

    What's the best path in this situation oh wise ones?
    b) and d) don't really apply as you've said he doesn't do anything. I'd go with a) personally. You can only mention it, after that what clientco does is upto them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sockpuppet View Post
    b) and d) don't really apply as you've said he doesn't do anything. I'd go with a) personally. You can only mention it, after that what clientco does is upto them.
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    d) I admire his audacity.
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    This is a very similar situation which occurred at my current client site 4 new guys and one was useless and obviously BS'ed on his CV and he even dared to complain to HR as a contractor about the work he was given.

    A couple of the contractors in my team decided to talk about him behind his back at a works drinks to the boss which the said contractor wasn't attending. The next day he was marched into the office and then marched out of the building, it was shocking as I've never seen that before in any IT role I've worked in.

    I then began to wonder what the two contractors who successfully sacked the contractor were saying about me as I later learned that one of them bumped into the ousted guy in the street months later and never revealed that he was the instigator of his ejection from the building.

    In a nutshell doing this creates mistrust within a team of contractors (i never 100% trusted my fellow contractors after this) but the alternative may have meant increased chances of the project failing carrying a guy who was not capable.

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    You should have got in first and left the other 2 wondering about you...
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    Don't worry about it Mupps. The other three have caught you out, but hopefully you'll be able to offer more as time goes by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarillionFan View Post
    Don't worry about it Mupps. The other three have caught you out, but hopefully you'll be able to offer more as time goes by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mupps View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mupps View Post
    I need advice from the seasoned hard-asses on this board.

    Currently working as a team of 4 contractors, 3 of us are clearly experts in our field and spend all day in busy, in depth conversations and activities creating the solution. We lead meetings with the permies and are worth every penny. The fourth does bugger all, his minimal skills, has clearly BS'd his CV to get there, has produced one diagram in 6 weeks and could be replaced by a cardboard cutout without any impact to the project.

    Do we:
    a) Point out his uselessness to the Clientco and get rid of him?
    b) Point out his uselessness to the Clientco and get rid of him and offer to do his work for an increase in our rate?
    c) Leave it to the permies to work it out for themselves, if they ever do?
    d) Live and let live, it's not our problem, although it is sort of because i have to do his work for him.

    What's the best path in this situation oh wise ones?
    Why is it *your* problem?

    If you have dependencies on his deliverables raise it with your manager.

    If he has no impact on you personally keep your nose out.

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