If the Scots really want independence....

[speling bee]

UK laws can be challenged within the courts. For example : Bed Room Tax Challenge. In this case the government won.

It's a fair system that has stood the test of time.

If the UK was hijacked by an extremist government then there are safeguards.

There really aren't safeguards against the supremacy of Parliament.

The fictional Act I suggested contains a withdrawal from the jurisdiction of European courts and from the European convention on human rights.

[tomtomagain]

There really aren't safeguards against the supremacy of Parliament.

The fictional Act I suggested contains a withdrawal from the jurisdiction of European courts and from the European convention on human rights.

As it's not going to happen. Let's just agree to disagree.


Although all the evidence suggest that the Scots will reject separation and remain within the Independent state that is the UK lets just suppose they do vote to go their own way.

Now anyone who has gone through a divorce would testify that splitting up is hard to do, and even with the best intentions things can get very bitter and nasty and given that the UK politicians will need to be seen to be getting a good deal out of the Scots I can imagine that the break up would be really messy.

So are the Scots being asked to sign up for independence at any price? If they vote yes and then the SNP ends up negotiating a really poor deal that most Scottish people wouldn't want to accept then what?

It's a lot easier for 60M people to put pressure on 5M people, than the other way around.

[speling bee]

As it's not going to happen. Let's just agree to disagree.

Certainly not.

Here's an extract from the linked article you directed me to:

According to the doctrine of parliamentary sovereignty, Parliament may pass any legislation that it wishes. Historically, "No Act of Parliament can be unconstitutional, for the law of the land knows not the word or the idea."[6] By contrast, in countries with a codified constitution, the legislature is normally forbidden from passing laws that contradict that constitution: constitutional amendments require a special procedure that is more arduous than that for regular laws.

If Parliament wants to delay elections, it can do so, as it did every year from 1940 until the 1945 election. If Parliament wanted to scrap elections it would have the power to do so.

[vetran]

Move to Scotland then.

They don't want him, they have some taste.

[speling bee]

Move to Scotland then.

I'm planning to move somewhere else. You can stew in your own cretinism for all I care.

[d000hg]

What a totally ******* dumbass thing to say.

English get a vote as part of UK every 5 years. For 1 of 2 parties with totally identical policies.

There are far more than two parties. The fact the same two keep getting in tells us that the public aren't especially dissatisfied - look what happened in Greece. The same could happen here if things went really to pot.

[speling bee]

There are far more than two parties. The fact the same two keep getting in tells us that the public aren't especially dissatisfied - look what happened in Greece. The same could happen here if things went really to pot.

Brillo only has two mittens, so he can't count beyond that.

[tomtomagain]

Certainly not.

Here's an extract from the linked article you directed me to:



If Parliament wants to delay elections, it can do so, as it did every year from 1940 until the 1945 election. If Parliament wanted to scrap elections it would have the power to do so.

And your point is what?

Everything can be hijacked by unscrupulous people. Dictators can grab power. That's obvious. Every law is written by man and can be amended by man.

It is extremely unlikely to happen in the UK. If the elected set of MPs' decided that they had had enough of democracy then they would be thrown into jail by the rest of society.

[speling bee]

And your point is what?

Everything can be hijacked by unscrupulous people. Dictators can grab power. That's obvious. Every law is written by man and can be amended by man.

It is extremely unlikely to happen in the UK. If the elected set of MPs' decided that they had had enough of democracy then they would be thrown into jail by the rest of society.

My point is that there are no constitutional safeguards.

[BrilloPad]

There are far more than two parties. The fact the same two keep getting in tells us that the public aren't especially dissatisfied - look what happened in Greece. The same could happen here if things went really to pot.

Interesting you mention Greece. At least there they have a party that wants out of the EU. For some reason the citizens don't vote for them - despite being in abject poverty. How stupid are they?

The Scots will head faster towards abject poverty once they don't have the English bailing out the obese gits.