Murray Group (Rangers) tax case - decision today?

[Whysoserious]

Not really as presumably they can now go after every football club in the land for unpaid PAYE as every football club in the land operated similar schemes.

Say bye bye to Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal.....

[webberg]

Not really as presumably they can now go after every football club in the land for unpaid PAYE as every football club in the land operated similar schemes.

Say bye bye to Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal.....

Not so sure that other clubs did.

My involvement in that world is limited but of the three I do know something about, they either never used this type of scheme or abandoned it and have reached an agreement with HMRC long ago.

If however the scheme was popular in the sports companies, why not include rugby, cricket, hockey etc. Perhaps not the stellar numbers or names but a lot of them?

[BolshieBastard]

Not really as presumably they can now go after every football club in the land for unpaid PAYE as every football club in the land operated similar schemes.

There's absolutely not a shred of evidence to support your assertion

Say bye bye to Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal.....

Hardly. Only Rangers seem to have used this scheme amongst football clubs.

[convict]

No doubt the HMRC propaganda machine will spew out more crap using well prepared statements shortly

[BrilloPad]

In theory, can Rangers/Murray group appeal? Or is this the end of the road?

[Whysoserious]

There's absolutely not a shred of evidence to support your assertion



Hardly. Only Rangers seem to have used this scheme amongst football clubs.

There are 8 premier league clubs being investigated for using EBTs.

[webberg]

In theory, can Rangers/Murray group appeal? Or is this the end of the road?

I think an appeal should be possible but...

Murray Group has no/low funds. I'm presuming (until corrected) that the administrator/liquidator will have to decide if there is any benefit to the creditors in continuing the fight if HMRC stand to take a majority of whatever funds/assets there are.

If their story ends here then we must look elsewhere for an answer and that might be one of the cases being prepared now or some form of HMRC graciousness in victory (and that is as likely as me being declared president of the world tomorrow afternoon).

[PerfectStorm]

In theory, can Rangers/Murray group appeal? Or is this the end of the road?

Depends. Did they purchase IPSE+?

[BolshieBastard]

There are 8 premier league clubs being investigated for using EBTs.

Yes, I noticed you've started the backstroke.

As I said, there isnt a shred of evidence to support your assertion, which is the clubs you mentioned had used the EBT model never mind its 'bye, bye' to them.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

There are time limits for assessing PAYE.

Other than in the case of fraud, HMRC can only go back 6 years.

That means 2008/9, and prior years, are out of time.