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Guide to using pension contributions to mitigate LC19

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    #21
    Originally posted by Runster View Post
    Say someone had a loan value of £600K over 6 years, had a private pension for that period set up and hadn't contributed for say 4 of those years, what would the scenario be for that situation in terms of LC19 regards pension contribution offset?
    It also depends how much else they earn this year.

    If they earn nothing else this year, and there is just the £600k loan charge, the tax would be £255,600.

    If they contributed the maximum £130k to the pension, the tax would be £197,100. A saving of £58,500.

    The person would have to be able to come up with the following sum of money to do this.

    Net pension contribution: £104,000 +
    Self-assessment: £223,100
    TOTAL: £327,100
    Last edited by Loan Ranger; 18 April 2018, 08:22.

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      #22
      If you've got really big loans + earnings this year (2018/19) which exceed £300k, the most you can contribute to a pension is £130k ie. 3 * £40k carry forward + £10k (full taper).

      The most you can save in tax in this case is £58,500. (45% tax rate * £130k)
      Last edited by Loan Ranger; 18 April 2018, 11:02.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Loan Ranger View Post
        If you've got really big loans + earnings this year (2018/19) which exceed £300k, the most you can contribute to a pension is £130k ie. 3 * £40k carry forward + £10k (full taper).

        The most you can save in tax in this case is £58,500. (45% tax rate * £130k)

        guess then you could look at EIS schemes on top .. if you were still brave ?

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          #24
          Originally posted by CanPayButWouldRatherNot View Post
          guess then you could look at EIS schemes on top .. if you were still brave ?
          What are EIS schemes?

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            #25
            Originally posted by Runster View Post
            What are EIS schemes?

            https://www.gov.uk/guidance/venture-...estment-scheme

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              #26
              Originally posted by Loan Ranger View Post
              It also depends how much else they earn this year.

              If they earn nothing else this year, and there is just the £600k loan charge, the tax would be £255,600.

              If they contributed the maximum £130k to the pension, the tax would be £197,100. A saving of £58,500.

              The person would have to be able to come up with the following sum of money to do this.

              Net pension contribution: £104,000 +
              Self-assessment: £223,100
              TOTAL: £327,100
              Ruinous.

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                #27
                Is anyone here still in a loan scheme. Presumably its time to get out. My agent (SP management) has asked me to sign an agreement to do business electronically. I'm worried about signing it as I don't know what implications it will have for disclosure to HMRC, but they are telling me they can't pay me until I do. Anyone else had this?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Runster View Post
                  Is anyone here still in a loan scheme. Presumably its time to get out. My agent (SP management) has asked me to sign an agreement to do business electronically. I'm worried about signing it as I don't know what implications it will have for disclosure to HMRC, but they are telling me they can't pay me until I do. Anyone else had this?
                  The firm you mention is in the UK or the IOM?

                  There are firms of that name registered in both jurisdictions.

                  The UK outfit I've never come across before.

                  The IOM firm shares an address with the Knox Group which in turn is (or was) connected with AML and SmartPay. So perhaps the SP is Smart pay?

                  Unless you have signed a loan agreement, having a loan is unlikely.
                  Last edited by webberg; 19 April 2018, 09:55. Reason: updated
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                  (No, me neither).

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by webberg View Post
                    The firm you mention is in the UK or the IOM?

                    There are firms of that name registered in both jurisdictions.

                    The UK outfit I've never come across before.

                    The IOM firm shares an address with the Knox Group which in turn is (or was) connected with AML and SmartPay. So perhaps the SP is Smart pay?

                    Unless you have signed a loan agreement, having a loan is unlikely.
                    I worked through Principal Contractors (Iom) first, and they then moved me to SP Management (I think IoM also) and SPM are saying I am not caught by the legislation while I've been with them (from Septish 2016. No doubt I will be at some point if there is any truth in this.

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                      #30
                      Non Residents

                      Originally posted by Runster View Post
                      Ruinous.
                      Does anyone know if non residents in excess of 5 years can still access the 130k pension as a possible means to mitigate the 2019 loan charge?

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