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Originally posted by JohntheBike View Post"I'd rather we acquire a client who has put us through the wringer and has realistic expectations than one who expects and wants to be led by the nose into whatever we deem is best"
the problem is, how many of us are going to get the chance of discussing, let alone negotiating the issues with the client?
"I'm suggesting that the contractors, united, can dictate minimum conditions on all intermediaries, us included, and that failing to do so will lead them into the same mess"
The problem as I see it here is that the "principle" organisation which claims to represent the contracting community appears to be following a different path to that which many of its members believe it should be taking.
I mean come on, you're supposed to be an IT contractor and you cannot edit a bit of HTML!?!I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!Comment
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Originally posted by cojak View PostI think that JtB was talking the usual tedious drivel.
That’s how I’ll view it anyway for now.Comment
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Originally posted by BolshieBastard View PostPlease, please learn how to edit the quote function. It really is tedious and tiresome reading the quote, for you then to type in quotes the part you wish to debate.
I mean come on, you're supposed to be an IT contractor and you cannot edit a bit of HTML!?!
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there is a whole wide World of highly paid specialist jobs outside of the PC environment you know, something that younger generation graduates seem to be oblivious to. What many people are unaware of is that those Unix and Windows servers that they delight in using are often hosted by an IBM mainframe emulating such platforms.
I discovered this when working for Ford in Cologne many years ago. The technology, originally called VM370 had been developed in the late 1960's by IBM and I'd had some exposure to the technology in the early 1970's when one physical mainframe was hosting two different types of IBM mainframe operating systems. During my 20 year absence from the IBM mainframe environment, clearly further operating systems were emulated. My current client uses 16 different LPARS, all hosted on one IBM mainframe, which also provides numerous other LPARS to a variety of clients.Last edited by JohntheBike; 8 July 2019, 12:00.Comment
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Originally posted by DeludedKitten View PostHaving read his posts in both places, WordIsBond isn't wrong.
I guess if you knew the exact circumstances of the bans, then you might have a different opinion.Comment
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Originally posted by BR14 View PostftfyComment
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Originally posted by SussexSeagull View PostI am not quite as downbeat as other people. From what I can see a majority of public sector contracts are still outside IR35 so why should the private sector be any different?
They speak of blanket "inside IR35" rules; HR telling them that outside Ir35 is no longer an option; jobs being advertised as "inside" which were previously outside.
The private sector will be much more risk averse than the public sector partly because of bottom line and partly reputational. They know that HMRC has better data now and will target mid size firms and contractors operating there before moving on to bigger one.
We already know that several banks have gone for the "no more contractors" rules and that others have created some confusion with department heads and budget holders having perhaps different views than those making policy. This is music to the ears of HMRC.
That music will be distinctly off key for contractors unless they organise their own counterpoint.Best Forum Adviser & Forum Personality of the Year 2018.
(No, me neither).Comment
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Originally posted by webberg View PostI hope your data set is indicative of the public sector position, but I have to say that clients contacting us, tell a different story.
They speak of blanket "inside IR35" rules; HR telling them that outside Ir35 is no longer an option; jobs being advertised as "inside" which were previously outside.
The private sector will be much more risk averse than the public sector partly because of bottom line and partly reputational. They know that HMRC has better data now and will target mid size firms and contractors operating there before moving on to bigger one.
We already know that several banks have gone for the "no more contractors" rules and that others have created some confusion with department heads and budget holders having perhaps different views than those making policy. This is music to the ears of HMRC.
That music will be distinctly off key for contractors unless they organise their own counterpoint.Comment
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Originally posted by webberg View PostI hope your data set is indicative of the public sector position, but I have to say that clients contacting us, tell a different story.
They speak of blanket "inside IR35" rules; HR telling them that outside Ir35 is no longer an option; jobs being advertised as "inside" which were previously outside.
The private sector will be much more risk averse than the public sector partly because of bottom line and partly reputational. They know that HMRC has better data now and will target mid size firms and contractors operating there before moving on to bigger one.
We already know that several banks have gone for the "no more contractors" rules and that others have created some confusion with department heads and budget holders having perhaps different views than those making policy. This is music to the ears of HMRC.
That music will be distinctly off key for contractors unless they organise their own counterpoint.
That said as for next April none of us really know. My suspicion is the city is having one of it's occasional goes at getting rid of contractors (never worked there but by the sound of it there is a large amount of permatractors working there) and it might eventually settle down.
Ultimately, we will all have to wait and see.Comment
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Originally posted by BolshieBastard View PostPlease, please learn how to edit the quote function. It really is tedious and tiresome reading the quote, for you then to type in quotes the part you wish to debate.
I mean come on, you're supposed to be an IT contractor and you cannot edit a bit of HTML!?!Comment
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