Heads up inside IR35 offers

[Invisiblehand]

So go on, then! - push back!

good luck.

let us know how you get on.

I agree with this. What's the plan Black Eagle?

[Paralytic]

Client: So, from April 2020 we're classifying your work as inside IR35. But, don't worry, we're raising your day rate from £500 to £600 per day

Contractor: Great, thanks, but where are my employee rights?

Client: Sure, you can get employee rights. But you have to sign this contract with a £60K salary.

Contractor:



I find it a bit disingenuous to expect employee rights except the one that most differentiates employees and contractors.

[northernladuk]

Disguised or not you will become an employee



%100 Do you have any legal definition to prove that wrong?

Do you have an proof you are actually making a true statement?

[JohntheBike]

Do you have an proof you are actually making a true statement?

only the ET can determine that!

[BR14]

I agree with this. What's the plan Black Eagle?

yes, what's your cunning plan BE ??

[northernladuk]

only the ET can determine that!

Tell him about the difference between tax and employment law and the situation as it stands after he goes inside but before he's won at ET.

[JohntheBike]

Tell him about the difference between tax and employment law and the situation as it stands after he goes inside but before he's won at ET.

well, despite my previous question, no one has been able to advise us what issues the FTT will consider, which the ET will not, and vice versa. So I can't advise him as you suggest. Until some legal eagle here can point out the differences, then clearly I can't advise him.

[northernladuk]

well, despite my previous question, no one has been able to advise us what issues the FTT will consider, which the ET will not, and vice versa. So I can't advise him as you suggest. Until some legal eagle here can point out the differences, then clearly I can't advise him.

Which is enough to prove his comment you are 100% employed is incorrect.

[blackeagle]

only the ET can determine that!

Lets make something clear Employment Tribunal will decide whether you were a worker or a disguised employee, that's something else. I am aware that HMRC is most of the time is wrong accessing the employment status. But starting April End Client will determine the status and there is no need for an ET then. And when the client says you are an "disguised employee" then you may ask for your employee rights! Simple. Wait and see ETs starting dealing with this kind of new cases starting from April!. By new case I mean End Client decides "disguised employee" so there is no more ET whether to decide your employment status! But employees are free to start now new cases in ETs asking for employee rights that simple! I hope I made myself clear.

[northernladuk]

Lets make something clear Employment Tribunal will decide whether you were a worker or a disguised employee, that's something else. I am aware that HMRC is most of the time is wrong accessing the employment status. But starting April End Client will determine the status and there is no need for an ET then. And when the client says you are an "disguised employee" then you may ask for your employee rights! Simple. Wait and see ETs starting dealing with this kind of new cases starting from April!. By new case I mean End Client decides "disguised employee" so there is no more ET whether to decide your employment status! But employees are free to start now new cases in ETs asking for employee rights that simple! I hope I made myself clear.

In bold - That isn't what the client is saying.

You are talking about us all being a Susan Winchester here aren't you?
What do we do if they say no?