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What is the general % split between public sector contracts being In or Out of IR35?

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    What is the general % split between public sector contracts being In or Out of IR35?

    As the IR35 changes have been in the public sector for a while, is there now a general feeling as how clients have reacted?

    Have they generally flagged most contracts as in IR35?

    Of the available public sector contracts are they generally in IR35 still?

    Have clients offered increased rates for contracts In IR35?

    The reason I ask...is I'm trying to judge what will happen in the private sector and how like I will be to find a contract is that actually OUT of IR35?

    #2
    We don’t know what the percentage will be and you can’t use the Public Sector to judge the effect on the Private Sector, the Public Sector and HMRC have the same paymaster after all.
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      #3
      Originally posted by cojak View Post
      We don’t know what the percentage will be and you can’t use the Public Sector to judge the effect on the Private Sector, the Public Sector and HMRC have the same paymaster after all.
      This. And many other reasons they just can't be compared.
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        #4
        I know we can't compare them exactly, I'm just looking for a rough order of magnitude. 1%, 10%, 50% ?

        I don't know anyone contracting in the public sector, so I have no idea what's actually happened and I'm interested to hear what people have seen happen.

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          #5
          90% I would say


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            #6
            Originally posted by GhostofTarbera View Post
            90% I would say


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            A reasonable number I reckon. Let’s hope it’s as high as 10% outside.
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              #7
              Originally posted by Cran View Post
              I know we can't compare them exactly, I'm just looking for a rough order of magnitude. 1%, 10%, 50% ?

              I don't know anyone contracting in the public sector, so I have no idea what's actually happened and I'm interested to hear what people have seen happen.
              Why, if you don't mind me asking? What is the point you are trying to make? A percentage is pointless if you don't know the number of gigs out there.
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                #8
                Originally posted by GhostofTarbera View Post
                90% I would say


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                I'd say thats 80% accurate.
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                  #9
                  I'm about to buy a house and trying to anticipate my likely income over the next 10 years.

                  10% sounds reasonable, so its pretty unlikely that I will find a contract Out of IR35.

                  For public sector contracts, have contractors been able to ask for an extra £50-100 per day to cover the loss of earnings or are clients offering slightly high rates? I think to earn the same as I was before, I'd need to charge £170 extra per day, which I can't see happening.

                  Again, just trying to gauge the feeling, rather than an exact number

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Cran View Post
                    I'm about to buy a house and trying to anticipate my likely income over the next 10 years.

                    10% sounds reasonable, so its pretty unlikely that I will find a contract Out of IR35.

                    For public sector contracts, have contractors been able to ask for an extra £50-100 per day to cover the loss of earnings or are clients offering slightly high rates? I think to earn the same as I was before, I'd need to charge £170 extra per day, which I can't see happening.

                    Again, just trying to gauge the feeling, rather than an exact number
                    Even if you could find such cases - PsychoCandy managed to get a rate increase, for example (I know, right?) - I don't think they'll be representative, post April 2020. Up until April 2020, the PS has been at a disadvantage and needed to attract people. That will change in April 2020.

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