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House of Commons - Letter to HMRC - IR35

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    House of Commons - Letter to HMRC - IR35

    There seems to be quite a lot of talk on here on life post IR35 however there where some very serious questions raised in the house of commons.

    IR35 'riddled with problems' and should be scrapped, say Lords - Citywire

    Lord Forsyth of Drumlean said
    ‘It is unfair that contractors within the rules are treated as employees for tax purposes but do not qualify for employment rights, thus creating a class of zero-rights employees. The government is replacing one unfairness with another.’

    Does anyone have a list of the concerns from the house of commons, why have HMRC not responded in the 10 days requested.

    It would be useful if somebody could provide a summary of the letter for interrogation, the government are public servants but these reforms show they are clearly show acting in their own self interest.

    #2
    It'll be in Hansard. I believe it's searchable online

    Search Hansard - Hansard

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      #3
      Originally posted by Shackattack View Post
      There seems to be quite a lot of talk on here on life post IR35 however there where some very serious questions raised in the house of commons.

      IR35 'riddled with problems' and should be scrapped, say Lords - Citywire

      Lord Forsyth of Drumlean said
      ‘It is unfair that contractors within the rules are treated as employees for tax purposes but do not qualify for employment rights, thus creating a class of zero-rights employees. The government is replacing one unfairness with another.’

      Does anyone have a list of the concerns from the house of commons, why have HMRC not responded in the 10 days requested.

      It would be useful if somebody could provide a summary of the letter for interrogation, the government are public servants but these reforms show they are clearly show acting in their own self interest.

      These are questions from the House of Lords, not Commons. The Lords have no authority on money bills. HMRC isnt answerable to the Lords. It can disregard such queries entirely.

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        #4
        Originally posted by AnthonyQuinn View Post
        These are questions from the House of Lords, not Commons. The Lords have no authority on money bills. HMRC isnt answerable to the Lords. It can disregard such queries entirely.
        Regardless the House of Commons raised some serious concerns.

        It seems to me that the Tories are doing everything in the power to ensure small business and enterprise cannot succeed.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Shackattack View Post
          Regardless the House of Commons raised some serious concerns.

          It seems to me that the Tories are doing everything in the power to ensure small business and enterprise cannot succeed.
          You can ask the new MP and Minister liason team manager when he is appointed! Apparently this new appointment will have a team of 9 working for them on MP and minister liason.
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            #6
            Originally posted by Shackattack View Post
            There seems to be quite a lot of talk on here on life post IR35 however there where some very serious questions raised in the house of commons.

            IR35 'riddled with problems' and should be scrapped, say Lords - Citywire

            Lord Forsyth of Drumlean said
            ‘It is unfair that contractors within the rules are treated as employees for tax purposes but do not qualify for employment rights, thus creating a class of zero-rights employees. The government is replacing one unfairness with another.’

            Does anyone have a list of the concerns from the house of commons, why have HMRC not responded in the 10 days requested.

            It would be useful if somebody could provide a summary of the letter for interrogation, the government are public servants but these reforms show they are clearly show acting in their own self interest.
            As Jesse Norman pointed out this is technically not true, as the contractors company is responsible for giving him or her employment benefits, e.g. sick pay. He however didn't say that contractor's company by design will not have any funds to provide such benefits. Not sure why nobody picked that up, as he essentially, in my opinion, misled the parliament.

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              #7
              Originally posted by elsergiovolador View Post
              As Jesse Norman pointed out this is technically not true, as the contractors company is responsible for giving him or her employment benefits, e.g. sick pay. He however didn't say that contractor's company by design will not have any funds to provide such benefits. Not sure why nobody picked that up, as he essentially, in my opinion, misled the parliament.
              But most limiteds don't have employees to provide this employee benefit to......
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                #8
                Originally posted by elsergiovolador View Post
                As Jesse Norman pointed out this is technically not true, as the contractors company is responsible for giving him or her employment benefits, e.g. sick pay. He however didn't say that contractor's company by design will not have any funds to provide such benefits. Not sure why nobody picked that up, as he essentially, in my opinion, misled the parliament.
                No he didn't - there is a legal entity between the contractor and the client and that legal entity has responsibilities
                merely at clientco for the entertainment

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by eek View Post
                  No he didn't - there is a legal entity between the contractor and the client and that legal entity has responsibilities
                  That legal entity is PSC. They even said something along the lines of taking your own company to employment tribunal to establish your rights.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by elsergiovolador View Post
                    That legal entity is PSC. They even said something along the lines of taking your own company to employment tribunal to establish your rights.
                    There is no such thing as a PSC regardless of the use of the phrase by HMRC and others..
                    merely at clientco for the entertainment

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