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    So just now a colleague in the US looked me up in Slack while screensharing, and I noticed that for my end client's US office I'm tagged as "EU Contractor inside IR35". I guess that's wrong on two counts, EU and IR35 It's the IR35 bit that I wanted to question. As a result of the deferral until 2021 I'm outside, so it's factually inaccurate. Setting that aside, should I be concerned that the end client feels it's necessary to identify people in this way? Interested to hear people's thoughts. Thanks.

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    End client does not give a hoot, you are a bod working like a permie


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    If you're marking yourself outside of IR35 I would definitely be concerned.

    As a result of the deferral until 2021 I'm outside, so it's factually inaccurate.
    Well, no. As a result of the deferral, you continue to be responsible for your own determination and the consequences of it. Whether that means you are inside or outside is a very different question.

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    Yes, you should be worried in the sense that the client will be questioned by HMRC under investigation so, if they see you as a permie, you'd struggle to convince HMRC (or a tribunal) otherwise, absent some excellent record keeping on your part that showed the reality as being very different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VirginiaWoolf View Post
    As a result of the deferral until 2021 I'm outside
    And, based on that comment, I'm guessing your record keeping isn't so excellent...

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    I had a similar discussion today about how to categorise contractors. Contractors in my business mean companies taking on sheet piling, catering or cleaning. 68 emails later I am no nearer a resolution with a particularly difficult client.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vwdan View Post
    If you're marking yourself outside of IR35 I would definitely be concerned.



    Well, no. As a result of the deferral, you continue to be responsible for your own determination and the consequences of it. Whether that means you are inside or outside is a very different question.
    Point taken, badly worded on my part. What I should have said is that the contract with the end client doesn't state that I'm inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesbrown View Post
    Yes, you should be worried in the sense that the client will be questioned by HMRC under investigation so, if they see you as a permie, you'd struggle to convince HMRC (or a tribunal) otherwise, absent some excellent record keeping on your part that showed the reality as being very different.
    Can you explain "absent some excellent record keeping" - do you mean apart from, not absent? Or what? Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesbrown View Post
    And, based on that comment, I'm guessing your record keeping isn't so excellent...
    Badly expressed on my part, I should have said that my contract with them does not state inside. It would have done, had the reforms not been deferred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostofTarbera View Post
    End client does not give a hoot, you are a bod working like a permie


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    I'm definitely just a bod mostly pushing treacle up hill but is it OK to tag people like that? Without informing us, without explaining their reasoning (even if an explanation was all guff)?

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