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  1. The amount paid to the pension should all be done...

    The amount paid to the pension should all be done via salary sacrifice, so you will be gaining the advantage as it reduces tax and both NI figures which would come out of the amount received from...
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    :eek: sorry hadn't noticed!

    :eek: sorry hadn't noticed!
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    Is that just to shut NorthernLad up :rollin: ...

    Is that just to shut NorthernLad up :rollin:

    With the actual point in question, firstly if you have a decent brolly they should be able to explain it with no issues (just saying)!

    Secondly...
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    Thanks Andy that is much appreciated :hug:

    Thanks Andy that is much appreciated :hug:
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    Love the thinking but loads of technicalities...

    Love the thinking but loads of technicalities with the contract of employment on that front :tired
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    :hug: Thank you, you lot are awesome, but it is...

    :hug: Thank you, you lot are awesome, but it is live numbers that are being payrolled. Just hoping that some of the agencies see the light and risk they are putting contractors at by putting them all...
  7. :laugh Think I may have to retrain as a divorce...

    :laugh Think I may have to retrain as a divorce lawyer or a midwife now!
  8. That's ok they will probably have zero value soon!

    That's ok they will probably have zero value soon!
  9. How to knock a woman when she’s down :ladybags:

    How to knock a woman when she’s down :ladybags:
  10. Soon it will become valuable you know and Eek...

    Soon it will become valuable you know and Eek will be laughing!
  11. Lol who said working via an umbrella company was...

    Lol who said working via an umbrella company was a $*** idea? :wink
    Just need more "clarity" and I will be right back to you all!
  12. It definitely is in the detail! In order to be...

    It definitely is in the detail! In order to be eligible the employee must be "furloughed" and not completing any work at home, yet the umbrella cannot guarantee that there will be work at the end of...
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    PAYE on £460 per day nets you £6,165.62 per...

    PAYE on £460 per day nets you £6,165.62 per month, but Eek is right the pension would help put you under the £100k threshold if you can justify it. If your income over £100,000, then your Personal...
  14. Sticky: No, Employers NI is calculated based on taxable...

    No, Employers NI is calculated based on taxable salary not your gross contract rate, and to get to your taxable salary you need to know the Employers NI, so it is a bit of "payroll magic" to do the...
  15. Sticky: Hi SDR, Clarity does look at a 1250L M1 figure...

    Hi SDR,
    Clarity does look at a 1250L M1 figure so one tax free allowance. However I cannot see that this can be taken into account on the Listentotaxman site, therefore will predict earnings for...
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    No surprise that there is no mention to...

    No surprise that there is no mention to regulation of umbrella companies! Living in hope! :tired
  17. I don't have an issue with agency choosing who...

    I don't have an issue with agency choosing who they want to work with, I do have an issue when they simply refuse to do due diligence on a company, relying on accreditation.
  18. If they are chargeable expenses and the client...

    If they are chargeable expenses and the client has reimbursed them in full, regardless of what they are, then you should receive the money back in full.
  19. The FCSA accreditation is a simple way for the...

    The FCSA accreditation is a simple way for the agencies / end clients to assume compliance with HMRC guidance. Nowadays I can guarantee that the number of compliance questionnaires received by...
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    :tumble:

    :tumble:
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    Thanks :wink

    Thanks :wink
  22. I have the question posed with a senior...

    I have the question posed with a senior employment lawyer at present, so will let you know the outcome too :happy
  23. Be interesting to see if this is the case, I have...

    Be interesting to see if this is the case, I have seen others who have been told that and then have ended up not being able to. :tired
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    Yep - ad-hoc payments and more than likely manual...

    Yep - ad-hoc payments and more than likely manual payments rather than DDs :smile
  25. Umbrella is an expensive, numbers game - in order...

    Umbrella is an expensive, numbers game - in order to be compliant it costs, that's just fact!

    Those charging minimal figures either have thousands of contractors on their books, or it is smaller...
  26. The simple thing you need to do is to check with...

    The simple thing you need to do is to check with your pension provider first; ideally they need to accept adhoc, non dd payments from the employer, not on a set date, not with a set amount - then you...
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    Undoubtedly! Probably HMRC approved too :tongue ...

    Undoubtedly! Probably HMRC approved too :tongue

    (and in case HMRC are watching that was a joke, we all know you don't approve anyone or anything, although maybe you should when it comes to...
  28. Simple - employed for tax purposes (sorry :tired)...

    Simple - employed for tax purposes (sorry :tired)



    You are employed if using an umbrella and outside you can continue to work through your Ltd company (in theory)

    Oh and as an aside workign...
  29. You will probably end up with the same issue with...

    You will probably end up with the same issue with any umbrella - if you think about the umbrella cannot guarantee when they will receive funds so they are highly unlikely to engage with any provider...
  30. Appreciate the thought :wink

    Appreciate the thought :wink
  31. Seems ridiculous unless you are asking for some...

    Seems ridiculous unless you are asking for some ridiculous calculation with pension, tax code, student loan, GAYE (and yes Northern Lad, I said GAYE!).

    It has to be down to the simple hard sales...
  32. In simple pensions and pensions only! I believe...

    In simple pensions and pensions only! I believe their code of conduct states they cannot do any kind of "tax planning".
  33. The big ones now definitely do - the...

    The big ones now definitely do - the monopolisation in the industry is making sure they do!
  34. Yes, the likelihood is any of the compliant...

    Yes, the likelihood is any of the compliant brollies are all working in the same manner. It does also assist with pension auto enrolment, if the figure was based on the full contract rate, deductions...
  35. £475 PAYE - nets £1,451.34 per week £527.85...

    £475 PAYE - nets £1,451.34 per week
    £527.85 Umbrella PAYE - nets you £1,502.37, so an extra £51.03

    Assuming standard tax codes, no pension etc. HTHs :smile
  36. As if - you are from up t'north :laugh

    As if - you are from up t'north :laugh
  37. :facepalm:

    :facepalm:
  38. Can't speak for FCSA (as we are not accredited,...

    Can't speak for FCSA (as we are not accredited, but still compliant I hasten to add) but our calculator allows you to enter the Gross amount based on whatever days you work in the month.

    Just...
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    And now we know what you get up to at the...

    And now we know what you get up to at the weekends and why no-one turns up! :laugh
  40. The agency would probably run a mile too or they...

    The agency would probably run a mile too or they risk prosecution under POTAS! Can't see how this would even be positioned. So you tell the agency you are working via a consultancy which then passes...
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    Bit late to the party but here goes; PAYE on...

    Bit late to the party but here goes;

    PAYE on £477 Nets you £1,455.14 per week
    Umbrella on £550 Nets you £1,558.56 per week

    That's about as simple as it gets! As always pick up the phone and...
  42. Always happy to hear and I do get it, but there...

    Always happy to hear and I do get it, but there are also many umbrella's operating compliantly who can now not get a look in as the PSLs are closed off!
  43. You would need to check with your agency incase...

    You would need to check with your agency incase they will block that due to contractual arrangements being sorted. As for the customer service, there are still some of us out there who treat those as...
  44. I was told by HMRC following the introduction...

    I was told by HMRC following the introduction into the Public Sector...
    "anyone deemed inside IR35 is highly unlikely to pass an SDC test, as such no expenses would be allowable."
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    Ask if they have a DOTAS number :tongue

    Ask if they have a DOTAS number :tongue
  46. I think that is the key, the agencies are simply...

    I think that is the key, the agencies are simply relying on the audit with no actual due diligence over and above that from what I have seen.
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    Like a nagging wife - can you get back to the...

    Like a nagging wife - can you get back to the ironing now you've had your say :tongue
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    Sticky: OK let's take IR35 out of the question as this...

    OK let's take IR35 out of the question as this was not even mentioned in context to what was advertised. What was said when you were offered the role - did you have the choice as to whether to...
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    :facepalm: sorry much love to you all. And thanks...

    :facepalm: sorry much love to you all. And thanks for all the support - priceless :wink
  50. Sticky: Or ask the brolly to talk you through it, if you...

    Or ask the brolly to talk you through it, if you are unsure. They will work off the tax code they are provided with either from the P45 or Starter Checklist, so that side is something they cannot...
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