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  1. It's a bit surprising he and his client doesn't...

    It's a bit surprising he and his client doesn't know this but why don't you? Public sector changes have been around 2 years and its about to hit private sector in 6 weeks.
  2. Not intentionally. We believe we are outside and...

    Not intentionally. We believe we are outside and HMRC had to prove we are inside. That's a difference of opinion not intentional deception.

    Do you not think you would have heard of fraud in...
  3. Fraud? No.

    Fraud?



    No.
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    Poll: I'll leave it with you. You're doing a Stirling...

    I'll leave it with you. You're doing a Stirling job so far.
  5. How long was 'he' there and is he still there? ...

    How long was 'he' there and is he still there?

    Now they know the need to provide a determination what have they decided?
  6. Poor. Very very poor.

    Poor. Very very poor.
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    Poll: No idea what we are going to give you this year...

    No idea what we are going to give you this year but we can certainly give your Mrs our commiserations and some sympathy.
  8. Start with the guy that won't accept the risk....

    Start with the guy that won't accept the risk. You've got 6 weeks to get rid of him.
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    Poll: Make what? :D

    Make what? :D
  10. If they are insistent on keeping you personally...

    If they are insistent on keeping you personally then I assume they are struggling with allowing a substitute. Do they need to keep you because you are part and parcel or they want you to just get on...
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    Most important question will be what will you be...

    Most important question will be what will you be doing at the insurance company. Is it the same role, or close as dammit, as you were doing before?

    Second is around handcuffs. Sounds like a bit of...
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    Oh.. Very good! :D

    Oh.. Very good! :D
  13. Honest != knowledgeable But to be fair I've...

    Honest != knowledgeable

    But to be fair I've come across some proper clued up agents in the last few months so they are out there.

    Must say I don't completely agree. The low hanging fruit of...
  14. Erm..... The very fact he things the...

    Erm.....

    The very fact he things the contractor's are classing themselves as outside rings alarm bells.
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    Ditto.... We need someone to organise next...

    Ditto....


    We need someone to organise next year's Xmas do....

    :igmc:
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    Tesla up 6%...finally. I got summat right... ...

    Tesla up 6%...finally. I got summat right...

    Next stop the moon... Quite literally as well.
  17. They might have done back in the day when it was...

    They might have done back in the day when it was money for old rope. Now they are potentially shouldering the liability of every single contractor not in an outside gig they might be changing their...
  18. Depends.

    Depends.
  19. It is when it makes little sense.

    It is when it makes little sense.
  20. With 6 weeks to go? Not a chance.

    With 6 weeks to go? Not a chance.
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    It would it were real.

    It would it were real.
  22. It's not really. You need to know everything...

    It's not really.

    You need to know everything else discussed and much much more.
  23. What???

    What???
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    You need a determination before you start. If...

    You need a determination before you start. If they are willing to give you an outside one then you are golden. Nothing else to worry about.

    If it's just a month then the risk on them is...
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    Totally. Although a bit different when it's...

    Totally. Although a bit different when it's touched you. It also doesn't mean that person isn't a friend so no need to get rid, just got this one badly wrong.

    But yeah, ignoring rathering trying...
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    SilentNight contractors have only just woken up...

    SilentNight contractors have only just woken up to the imminent changes.
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    There is one of these tag your mates things going...

    There is one of these tag your mates things going on on my FB at the moment and it's got me proper wound up.

    Starts off saying ladies fix your crowns and goes on with some guff about not letting...
  28. Like Wales?

    Like Wales?
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    PC unmasked Universal Credit dad 'forced to move...

    PC unmasked
    Universal Credit dad 'forced to move into freezing caravan after benefits delay' - Mirror Online
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    Can't go round dogging sheeping with a static...

    Can't go round dogging sheeping with a static caravan can you.
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    That's tedious and ridiculous. Not the same as...

    That's tedious and ridiculous. Not the same as boring.
  32. Question is.. Where will they all go? Leave one...

    Question is.. Where will they all go? Leave one client with inside determinations to go work at another, who's contractors all left because of determinations?

    All thst will happen is a merry go...
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    To be fair to you PC. Boring is not a word even I...

    To be fair to you PC. Boring is not a word even I would have associated with you.
  34. Out of interest have have you worded the appeal...

    Out of interest have have you worded the appeal and on what points? . Is it an appeal or just attempting to open a negotiation on the future role? Have you quoted the legislation to try get a...
  35. Yes. If it is deemed outside it will be in the...

    Yes. If it is deemed outside it will be in the minority. Its likely any other contracts you take up in the next few years will be inside and again, being a newbie you will be up against many tens of...
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    Win win.. I like the cut of your gib.

    Win win.. I like the cut of your gib.
  37. Goddamit. I can't get anything right. :igmc:

    Goddamit. I can't get anything right.

    :igmc:
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    You've got the choice of having JtB back or...

    You've got the choice of having JtB back or contracting a particularly nasty case of Herpes. Which will you chose?
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    Excellent find!! 9/10. Dropped one for not...

    Excellent find!! 9/10. Dropped one for not providing the links for us but nailed it.

    IR35 and Personal Liability - can HMRC proceed against an individual? - Whitefield Tax Limited - Isle of Wight...
  40. Is that right?

    Is that right?
  41. LOL ok ok smart arse. Always one isn't there LOL...

    LOL ok ok smart arse. Always one isn't there LOL :fight:

    But the theory still stands :D
  42. JtB off topic tedious chuntery incoming in 10......

    JtB off topic tedious chuntery incoming in 10... 9 ...
  43. It has? Could you provide some links because I...

    It has? Could you provide some links because I don't think anyone has gone in to it in detail as SimonMac has here.

    Could you link some examples?



    But we don't. QDOS can walk away if there...
  44. I don't think this is the case. Simon is talking...

    I don't think this is the case. Simon is talking about when an HMRC investigation lands on your mat. You are well passed the challenges with the client at this point.
  45. Bolded bit - Absolutely you should. The cost and...

    Bolded bit - Absolutely you should. The cost and stress of getting there, win or no win will be highly unpleasant. I'll bet if they do start spamming investigations, even with the knowledge it might...
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    That sounds like D&C to me....

    That sounds like D&C to me....
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    But what a clean and pleasant smelling u bend it...

    But what a clean and pleasant smelling u bend it is...
  48. Have a look at the guides to the right,...

    Have a look at the guides to the right, particularly the first timers guides and umbrella guides.

    This will answer your questions and give you a raft of knowledge about things you didn't know you...
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    Hey. We are all in this together.

    Hey. We are all in this together.
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    No you aren't. You are asking who is liable. Ltd...

    No you aren't. You are asking who is liable. Ltd or individual. Working out the route of the money through to the individual as outside and then working out the route if it was PAYE would give you...
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