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    Take a right at General, walk past the door...

    Take a right at General, walk past the door marked NLUK and it's another two doors down on the left. :D
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    I suppose they could opt to make the payment for...

    I suppose they could opt to make the payment for publicity. However, in this new world, I doubt it. Failure to provide a clear answer is most likely constructive ambiguity. Most contractors probably...
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    Er, no.

    Er, no.
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    They should be able to guide you based on...

    They should be able to guide you based on turnover.

    That said, I think you have an extremely optimistic take on their guidance about the SDS. There has always been a requirement for a realistic...
  5. In summary, I would take what you’ve been given...

    In summary, I would take what you’ve been given and forget about it.
  6. What does the SDS actually include? The relevant...

    What does the SDS actually include? The relevant draft ESM indicates that CEST output would qualify, for example, so anything like CEST would qualify. If it’s just a single-word status then, yes, it...
  7. Oh, and is anyone still listening to JtB?

    Oh, and is anyone still listening to JtB?
  8. Agree with WiB. It's easy enough to argue...

    Agree with WiB.

    It's easy enough to argue that short-term temps that take D&C from their end clients are the "real" problem, not permietractors.

    It's a slippery slope and missing the point....
  9. Sticky: If you're doing roughly the same thing in roughly...

    If you're doing roughly the same thing in roughly the same way, previously self-employed, now employed, then the risk exists, regardless of the trail of breadcrumbs. If you believe HMRC guidance,...
  10. While tax liabilities may operate as a...

    While tax liabilities may operate as a disincentive, there are strong incentives for a client to work with a contractor's company, rather than an individual (due to other liabilities). The tax risk...
  11. Sticky: The umbrella is the contractor's employer and...

    The umbrella is the contractor's employer and operates PAYE RTI. There is no deemed payment nor a situation of moving from "outside" to "inside", rather from outside to employment (which HMRC will be...
  12. Sticky: Sure it’s different. My point is that they don’t...

    Sure it’s different. My point is that they don’t need to faff about with differences in NI. There is a direct record in RTI for whether a payment is a deemed payment. The agency reporting gets them...
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    The responsibility to correctly operate PAYE...

    The responsibility to correctly operate PAYE always rests with the Fee Payer, but the liability for any failure can fall elsewhere in the supply chain, depending on circumstances, and the definition...
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    Taxes should be deducted according to what the...

    Taxes should be deducted according to what the Fee Payer deems is reality. Failure to respond timely to an appeal only changes the Fee Payer (if not the client) and hence the responsibility for...
  15. Sticky: Amendments to the PAYE legislation will...

    Amendments to the PAYE legislation will facilitate a specific flag for a deemed payment in RTI.
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    Also agree with sasgimp.

    Also agree with sasgimp.
  17. Group therapy: Hadaka Matsuri: Thousands...

    Group therapy:

    Hadaka Matsuri: Thousands gather for Japan'''s '''Naked Festival''' | CNN Travel
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    Oops, sorry. Don't look above. :D

    Oops, sorry. Don't look above. :D
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    What's a "single defined document structure for...

    What's a "single defined document structure for validation"? You mean a schema? Schema or schemaless is mostly orthogonal to format. Many formats can be used with a schema or without.

    Choice of...
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    Cap'n Proto or FlatBuffers is where it's at. :D

    Cap'n Proto or FlatBuffers is where it's at. :D
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    It's only fair™. More tax on serfs, the Search...

    It's only fair™. More tax on serfs, the Search Engine Redistribution Framework.
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    Stick your **** on client photocopier, place copy...

    Stick your **** on client photocopier, place copy into client envelope, deliver via client mail system.

    Job done.
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    Agree. They could delay slightly, but not by much...

    Agree. They could delay slightly, but not by much and they need a FA to collect taxes that are renewed annually.
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    I don’t think so, because the statutory...

    I don’t think so, because the statutory responsibility wouldn’t even be in question. I think the clauses would need to be examined and established as having the desired intent and having been entered...
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    Right, you cannot transfer a statutory...

    Right, you cannot transfer a statutory responsibility. In other words, the debt absolutely would be paid by the supply chain in the first instance. The question is whether it could then be recovered...
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    No, liability is with the foreign client if it's...

    No, liability is with the foreign client if it's a truly outsourced service, as you say. They will need to issue an SDS and act as Fee Payer, at least in principle and according to the draft...
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    Alternatively: pound increases slightly, within...

    Alternatively: pound increases slightly, within range, because they are betting the chancellor will spend more (so the BoE will be less willing to cut rates). Which he will. :D

    Daily Telegraph...
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    Yeah, belt and braces. TBH even with contract...

    Yeah, belt and braces.

    TBH even with contract clauses, I think you'd be in a much less risky position post-April with an outside contract than before April, simply because the supply chain...
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    Imagine completing the medical exam on MF. ...

    Imagine completing the medical exam on MF.

    The examiner would've visited the moon, effectively.
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    Gosh, HMRC doesn't understand gov't legislation...

    Gosh, HMRC doesn't understand gov't legislation shock. :laugh
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    As widely reported by politicos, direct quotes...

    As widely reported by politicos, direct quotes from Boris.

    :D
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    I reckon it will be remembered for an average...

    I reckon it will be remembered for an average amount of time.
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    But we know he was. That's why he's been banging...

    But we know he was. That's why he's been banging on about ER helping the obnoxiously rich get even richer, to paraphrase. You're completely misjudging him. He's more Blair than Thatcher.
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    True, he will own them. But I think he's OK with...

    True, he will own them. But I think he's OK with that.
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    What's all that about? Did JtB have some sort...

    What's all that about?

    Did JtB have some sort of appearance at an ET or something?
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    He was onboard. But he was probably less onbaord...

    He was onboard. But he was probably less onbaord for some other day-to-day spending commitments, which could just imply other tax rises...
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    Oh, FFS, go and read them yourself if you think...

    Oh, FFS, go and read them yourself if you think you know better. ITEPA, chapter 2. Plus the Finance Bill in draft.

    If *you* and *YourCo* are working from the UK, then *YourCo* is within the scope...
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    Those ideas weren't coming from Javid...

    Those ideas weren't coming from Javid...
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    Yes, overseas clients are treated the same as UK...

    Yes, overseas clients are treated the same as UK clients w/r to IR35, including after April (based on the draft legislation). No, it probably isn't enforceable.

    But if the overseas company has a...
  40. It isn't a stupid question in the sense that a...

    It isn't a stupid question in the sense that a client may regard all workers within a particular role category as doing essentially the same thing in the same way, so they could reasonably (meaning,...
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    :rollin: I think you misunderstand. The...

    :rollin:

    I think you misunderstand.

    The direction of travel is the exact opposite of that.

    Javid was comparatively Thatcherite. Broadly, he was against massive spending because he didn't...
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    Yup.

    Yup.
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    Expect even more profligacy now. No. 10 is...

    Expect even more profligacy now. No. 10 is running the Treasury...
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    https://twitter.com/elliotttimes/status/1227925219...

    https://twitter.com/elliotttimes/status/1227925219245010949
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    Rishi Sunak in.

    Rishi Sunak in.
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    He was asked to sack both special advisors and...

    He was asked to sack both special advisors and refused. He had to sack one last year too and was bitter about it.

    No impact on IR35, most likely.
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    Apparently asked to sack his two special advisors...

    Apparently asked to sack his two special advisors and refused.
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    Javid resigns

    :rollin:
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    I also wouldn’t overstate this risk. Afterall,...

    I also wouldn’t overstate this risk. Afterall, HMRC can barely win an IR35 case on a good day. Now the entire supply chain is singing from the same sheet. There is really very little value in...
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    Why do you think so many companies are avoiding...

    Why do you think so many companies are avoiding status determinations altogether?

    Like I said, liability potentially reaches every part of the supply chain above the contractor’s PSC. It...
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