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    Right now, probably not good. But back in 2000...

    Right now, probably not good.

    But back in 2000 when IR35 was first introduced, and with just as little hardened experiences, what odds would Betfair have given contractors then to go up against...
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    I can envisage the other scenario. You were...

    I can envisage the other scenario.

    You were outside and now you've been erroneously declared inside.

    A court case ensues and the contractor is found to be outside after all.

    HMRC to cough up...
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    In the fullness of time it will likely not be...

    In the fullness of time it will likely not be that niche, nor rare.



    Fx ?
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    While I appreciate the thinking, I think, as...

    While I appreciate the thinking, I think, as others have said, there is only a market rate.

    That together with your CV will pretty much suggest at any one time what you're likely to be worth to...
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    Can I refer you to my (currently) last post on...

    Can I refer you to my (currently) last post on this thread which answers Substitution fairly, and I had returned an Outside verdict.
    ...
  6. What you told us 1. About you and the work...

    What you told us

    1. About you and the work
    Who are you?
    Worker

    What do you want to do?
    Make a new determination

    Are you trading through a limited company, partnership or unincorporated...
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    Apparently it is Qdos who are not using the CEST...

    Apparently it is Qdos who are not using the CEST tool because their insurance is based on their own questionnaire.

    Sounds to be in good hands.
  8. Thread: Selling ltd co

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    A website even at that time would still have...

    A website even at that time would still have concurrent customers, turnover, clearly in that era no profit, maybe an IP, hopefully a big name.

    A very difficult time to value companies when...
  9. Good point! Fair play. Will do. Thanks.

    Good point! Fair play.

    Will do.

    Thanks.
  10. Many thanks. Yes, and to be clear from my...

    Many thanks.

    Yes, and to be clear from my side, my contract and working practices are Outside - which will certainly cover me to April.

    But after April, your known unknowns aside (HMRC's...
  11. Thread: Procorre call

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    Many thanks cojak. Apologies for your...

    Many thanks cojak. Apologies for your frustration.

    I had actually read the Procorre partnership thread, but my understanding of such, limited as it is, did not immediately shed light...
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    Thanks for that. I realise I have tripped...

    Thanks for that.

    I realise I have tripped myself up here in my choice of words. Apologies.

    Procorre were suggesting a partnership that, as indicated, would lead to a share in profit. Maybe I...
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    Am now wishing I had commenced a separate thread....

    Am now wishing I had commenced a separate thread. One specific area of Samsung is offering a ray of hope. This just in from a friend for whom I was offering insight.



    Two points of interest...
  14. Fair play. To change the wording slightly to...

    Fair play.

    To change the wording slightly to the OP in respect of Substitution;

    1. Engage the CEST tool
    2. Answer all questions accurately according to contract and working practice
    3. For...
  15. :) Even HMRC's law is subject to treacly...

    :)

    Even HMRC's law is subject to treacly fluidity and the direction of the wind ...
  16. Thread: Selling ltd co

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    I get these all the time. Are they not just...

    I get these all the time.

    Are they not just fishing around for likely investments with little or no knowledge of what the company actually does? If you were to engage in a conversation, they...
  17. Thread: Procorre call

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    Procorre call

    Procorre called me today for a chat.

    The conversation lacking in any real direction or purpose, I couldn't initially decide whether they were offering a contract or selling me a service. ...
  18. Indeed, but then wouldn't that answer apply to...

    Indeed, but then wouldn't that answer apply to much of what is discussed on this forum?

    ...Which would render the forum redundant and not offer the much needed platform for people to look down...
  19. Many thanks for this. As for the quoted bit......

    Many thanks for this.

    As for the quoted bit... 'The HMRC to clarify anything' must surely be a contradiction in terms...!
  20. I do. Based in NL.

    I do. Based in NL.
  21. Concentrate on the three pillars of IR35. Both...

    Concentrate on the three pillars of IR35. Both from a 'contract inclusion' and 'working methods' point of view.

    Substitution - The CEST tool only now seems to want to know that you have a right...
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    While you might have reason for this comment, we...

    While you might have reason for this comment, we don't know;

    1. If his first role was for only two/three weeks
    2. If he was let go
    3. If notice periods were all observed and agreed
    4. If...
  23. This is currently exactly my situation too Chimp....

    This is currently exactly my situation too Chimp.

    I am told, and I believe, that HMRC's jurisdiction ends at the borders. They can't dictate what foreign clients do. Therefore, am Outside.
  24. Quoting myself, vindication of the above in...

    Quoting myself, vindication of the above in today's news.

    IR35 reform: HSBC bans its consultancies from supplying limited company contractors
  25. Indeed they've made a career of it...

    Indeed they've made a career of it...
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    There are now plenty of Outside roles in the...

    There are now plenty of Outside roles in the Public Sector. Not all, but enough to sense that these guys are getting their heads around it.

    It might be that the current Private Sector contractors...
  27. Would it not be beneficial to maintain it for the...

    Would it not be beneficial to maintain it for the seven years one is supposed to maintain records for investigation? Or, if one follows the Loan Charge story, forever?
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    I was going to stick this in a separate thread,...

    I was going to stick this in a separate thread, but bearing in mind it has EY's hands all over it, it may as well just reside thumpingly here.

    Samsung's current thrust, is all too similar to that...
  29. Well, bless him, he might have the skills!...

    Well, bless him, he might have the skills! ...Timing and history aside.
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    Between now and 5th April, No. It is your...

    Between now and 5th April, No. It is your responsibility to correctly determine.

    If after 6th April, then yes. ….Unless you want to pick a fight and provide reason for getting the client to...
  31. Well, if you can arrange it so you are paid from...

    Well, if you can arrange it so you are paid from abroad, then this ends it right there.

    HMRC / Treasury jurisdiction ends at the Channel.
  32. I think it is fair to say the 'small consultancy'...

    I think it is fair to say the 'small consultancy' based on 'banded together bunch of contractors' route is yet to be really determined as to whether this will be an issue for In/Outside IR35...
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    And, further to the immediate above, Poll Tax...

    And, further to the immediate above, Poll Tax impacted everyone in the UK, and IR35 etc does not even come close to the same numbers.
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    While it is unclear how a contractor may be able...

    While it is unclear how a contractor may be able to open up their own investigation to claw back taxes from a 'client predetermined' Inside position to the contractor's determination of an Outside...
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    This acronym differentiating how, to the 'other'...

    This acronym differentiating how, to the 'other' PS body...

    PS, PS, PS...
  36. Good. Market and capitalism forces at work. ...

    Good. Market and capitalism forces at work.

    Let's hope there are enough adverse contractor forces at work to ram home the sense.
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    Can you name the expert? Am thinking it is an EY...

    Can you name the expert? Am thinking it is an EY / PWC type of 'expert' as opposed to a named individual? If the former, there are cases on these forums already demonstrating a complete lack of...
  38. Back in the day, it was exactly this sort of...

    Back in the day, it was exactly this sort of Insurance I was wondering if in reference to April 2020, would ever see the light of day and be made available.

    Admittedly, it was a thought in...
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    It is a Public Sector role so these guys have had...

    It is a Public Sector role so these guys have had two or more years to get their heads around this.

    As to the OP's point, if there is nothing else on the table, I would trust them.

    If you...
  40. A tough break indeed. I daresay there will be...

    A tough break indeed.

    I daresay there will be more of this sort of behaviour in the ensuing months. People have been seen to run scared of contracts' 'power' but at the same time, they can be...
  41. I am currently in a similar sounding position in...

    I am currently in a similar sounding position in that, while I am based in the UK, I am being paid by and from NL.

    Since the Treasury / HMRC jurisdiction ends at the Channel, the IR35 rules do not...
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    Yeah. This promised 'review' exemplifies...

    Yeah. This promised 'review' exemplifies entirely why I have never voted for a party at any election.

    While I am sure this flies against the grain of countries fighting for the freedom to vote...
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    And if we agree that it is just one of the three...

    And if we agree that it is just one of the three pillars required to keep people Outside IR35, then that, right there, is sufficient to any and all requirements for all clients.

    How would proving...
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    From your account, all their contractors actually...

    From your account, all their contractors actually Are Inside. Notwithstanding any contractors' efforts to remain Out...

    Grief, what a story. Sounds horrendous.
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    For the moment, yes. But in 1999 when IR35...

    For the moment, yes.

    But in 1999 when IR35 was introduced, HMRC very helpfully offered contractors free assessments of their contracts to see if they were In or Outside. Surprisingly, all who...
  46. Thread: Sainsbury's

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    Yup - I did try it then too, out of morbid...

    Yup - I did try it then too, out of morbid curiosity, and I was deemed wholly Inside. (When in fact I would have been found by a court to be thumpingly Outside.)
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    You say you didn't sign a contract with them, the...

    You say you didn't sign a contract with them, the agency? Yet it is they that are paying you the expense, and presumably the day rate?

    Either way, they may just be trying their luck.

    Can you...
  48. Thread: Sainsbury's

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    Have you taken it for a spin since its (part)...

    Have you taken it for a spin since its (part) update?

    I have and I am found outside, even while stating the client can reject a substitute. No it doesn't consider MoO, but it is better.
  49. Thread: Sainsbury's

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    Sainsbury's

    Sainsbury's IR35 Delight for Contractors as Food Group Serves Up a Treat
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    Yeah, I know. I think had it not been for...

    Yeah, I know.

    I think had it not been for hairymouse's 'volunteer job' ad, I wouldn't have bitten. Just couldn't resist once that was added to the mix.
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