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  1. I do agree with you about the additional...

    I do agree with you about the additional responsibilities but don't about them being disorganised. Ever since I've worked in software development (20+ years), whether permanent employee or...
  2. Sadly it is very much this. Contractors need...

    Sadly it is very much this.

    Contractors need to think about this long and hard, myself included.

    Of course we all want SOW style contracts and to ensure we maintain an outside IR35 status but...
  3. Shocked... Shocked I tell you! Seriously...

    Shocked... Shocked I tell you!

    Seriously though I'm hardly surprised. Yes, taking back control is working out well.
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    Doesn't this get to the nub of the problem for...

    Doesn't this get to the nub of the problem for end clients over the years. While contractors have had an option to contract, why would you even consider going permanent? Remove contracting as a...
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    Likewise. They've most certainly lost our vote....

    Likewise. They've most certainly lost our vote.

    No party will change what's happening with IR35.
  6. My interpretation of Old Greg's comment (I'm sure...

    My interpretation of Old Greg's comment (I'm sure I'll be corrected if wrong) is to do whatever you need to do to earn a living. If there are no contracts, go perm. If contracting is still an...
  7. Hard to disagree with the above. From everything...

    Hard to disagree with the above. From everything I've read they are making it so convoluted to continue using the ltd that brolly will be the only way to go.

    Good FAQ from The FaQQer.
  8. Just as I thought so thanks for the confirmation....

    Just as I thought so thanks for the confirmation. Although I haven't studied it in detail, I'm assuming this will still be the same post April 2020.
  9. Agree with most of the above apart from the...

    Agree with most of the above apart from the highlighted part. I'm pretty sure you can still work via your LTD although I am unsure of precisely how it would work.

    What I would say is that if...
  10. Surprised about the QDOS approach. My take on...

    Surprised about the QDOS approach.

    My take on it is that while the contract may be outside of IR35, if the client deems that you can't provide a substitute, no matter whether you could in...
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    The highlighted part makes me laugh. That's just...

    The highlighted part makes me laugh. That's just the token cover your backside part of the legislation, just like having an appeals process which I fully expect no contractor will ever win.

    Sadly...
  12. I cannot see a scenario in which this will ever...

    I cannot see a scenario in which this will ever happen. This is about increasing tax revenue, not ensuring the right taxes have been paid.
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    Wishful thinking? You have to ask yourself why...

    Wishful thinking?

    You have to ask yourself why the projected tax receipts in the first year post implementation will yield a massive hike. My take on it is the retrospective tax grab, no matter...
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    ^^Spot on.

    ^^Spot on.
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    Completely agree with you. However... the...

    Completely agree with you.

    However... the cynic in me (and I believe many others) says it is in the interests of HMRC and HMT to keep it just vague enough that they can cast their net as widely as...
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    On your 2 main points: Leave - with all my...

    On your 2 main points:


    Leave - with all my previous clients I have never asked but have always stated that out of courtesy I'm letting them know I won't be working on specific dates and if they...
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    To add some cheer, had a couple of interviews at...

    To add some cheer, had a couple of interviews at the start of August which came to nothing and then didn't secure any other interviews until this month. Have had an offer over the last 24 hours. ...
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    All part of the lovely Adecco group so...

    All part of the lovely Adecco group so encompasses the full list here. Well known (I suspect) ones are certainly Modis, Spring and Pontoon.

    They only ever really answer if they want something...
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    +1 for this approach. I use iRedMail - Free,...

    +1 for this approach.

    I use iRedMail - Free, Open Source Mail Server Solution running on an Ubuntu distro and have done for the last 9 years.
  20. I don't think you should write off QDOS and IPSE...

    I don't think you should write off QDOS and IPSE just yet. Unless people go down the MVL route, AFAIK there is still a likelihood of requiring some kind of insurance for a few years yet, even if...
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    I've heard this for other companies too. Orders...

    I've heard this for other companies too. Orders have fallen off a cliff.

    Buckle up folks, it's going to be a very bumpy ride.
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    Seriously though, has that happened today? I...

    Seriously though, has that happened today? I would have thought they'd all be inside IR35 already?
  23. Sure, but not the deep negative interest rate...

    Sure, but not the deep negative interest rate policy proposed by the IMF. I'm aware of the likes of Denmark, Sweden and Japan doing it but it's certainly not got below -1% AFAIK.

    Governments...
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    Now that's justice.... :igmc:

    Now that's justice.... :igmc:
  25. While I have little doubt that many countries...

    While I have little doubt that many countries would love negative interest rates, it won't happen until cash is banned which, as many observers point out, puts the floor on interest rates at zero...
  26. Sadly I have been a victim of the renewals...

    Sadly I have been a victim of the renewals comment and indeed when negotiating a contract too. Agencies and clients often just want you to "sign the contract as everyone else does, you're just being...
  27. While I can somewhat understand the points above,...

    While I can somewhat understand the points above, for some larger IT teams they may have a number of contractors sourced via different agencies, potentially all with different contracts although...
  28. If you want to see the rules, they will...

    If you want to see the rules, they will (hopefully) eventually be committed to github.

    The current rules are available in spreadsheet form from 1.5.0-final.xlsx.

    To see precisely what changes...
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    Probably dead until sometime well after April...

    Probably dead until sometime well after April 2020.
  30. ** NLUK beat me to it! ** Why unfair? If the...

    ** NLUK beat me to it! **

    Why unfair? If the contractor has done their due diligence via QDOS etc then isn't that part of conducting your business affairs properly?
  31. Thanks for the lecture. In an ideal world there...

    Thanks for the lecture. In an ideal world there would be no tax avoidance but hey.

    What I meant was justice should be available to all, regardless of wealth.

    However, justice would have been...
  32. Absolutely not - but this is the direction of...

    Absolutely not - but this is the direction of travel over the last decade. Justice more than ever is becoming the preserve of the incredibly wealthy.
  33. Interesting comment about being plain dim. I was...

    Interesting comment about being plain dim. I was not suggesting on all outside IR35 contracts. If concerns about retrospection were not a thought people had, then why mention it in the the budget...
  34. I agree with this part. I didn't say...

    I agree with this part.

    I didn't say retrospective taxation was immoral, more that it is evil. Retrospection should have no place. Where does it stop? Many people rightly believe they have...
  35. While people should have been more questioning,...

    While people should have been more questioning, the fact is that many weren't. I know when someone tried to get me into one I did say, "let me get this straight, you want me to effectively take out...
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    There's a perfect storm. Both Brexit and the...

    There's a perfect storm. Both Brexit and the private sector off-payroll are contributing.
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    Yes... but under the defunct business entity...

    Yes... but under the defunct business entity tests if you have over 10% bad debt per year that was seen a positive. The mind boggles!
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    :laugh While I had thought that myself (living...

    :laugh

    While I had thought that myself (living a reasonable distance from the city), what's the excuse for everyone working in London?

    I'm sure if people could arrange their working hours to...
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    As someone told me at the event yesterday, they...

    As someone told me at the event yesterday, they were advised (by their MP) that the approach of HMT/HMRC is to collect first and deal with the aftermath later. The approach they've been taking...
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    Exactly. I'm pretty sure the entire plan...

    Exactly.



    I'm pretty sure the entire plan wasn't to hold a banner outside Parliament as there was a drop-in session with a number of MPs attending later on.

    Given the number of people...
  41. As someone who has held the insurance for nearly...

    As someone who has held the insurance for nearly as long as I've been contracting and just renewed I think it really depends on your approach to risk. While you may well right, can you afford to pay...
  42. I did ask my accountant and they were of the...

    I did ask my accountant and they were of the opinion:

    Would it be "wholly and exclusively"?
    Affect only personal taxation?
    They did concede that it will affect how the business operates hence...
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    I agree with you about the business side and the...

    I agree with you about the business side and the permietractors comment. In one of the more recent places I contracted in a handful of longish term contractors went perm overnight when the original...
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    Probably a certain element of truth in what you...

    Probably a certain element of truth in what you say but HMRC are playing a numbers game here.

    I suspect they'll be more than happy if they can tip the balance from the majority being outside to...
  45. From my previously roles with contracts in the...

    From my previously roles with contracts in the Isle of Man and Ireland in theory yes, but in reality it would be hard for them to pursue. Saying that, I always did my due diligence with IR35...
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    Agreed about the open ended contracts. When I...

    Agreed about the open ended contracts. When I contracted at Nationwide Building Society for about 6 months a decade ago, I was gobsmacked how many long term contractors they had there and indeed...
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    Unfortunately the government is 2 steps ahead in...

    Unfortunately the government is 2 steps ahead in that respect. They've seen this coming and already mitigated it.

    If a few hundred thousand contractors end up as casualties, I really don't think...
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    Yeah, I did see sacked and wondered how long...

    Yeah, I did see sacked and wondered how long before someone on here picked it up. For me it's not the very important nuance between sacked and terminated but the fact that HSBC are allegedly taking...
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    As an update to this thread and apologies if...

    As an update to this thread and apologies if posting a link to another site is considered heresy:

    IR35 HMRC Exemption - Contractor Weekly

    In short, I suspect there must be some substance to the...
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    Jesus wept...

    Jesus wept...
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