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  1. Interesting, LoanRanger - thanks for this. Who...

    Interesting, LoanRanger - thanks for this.
    Who was this sent to? Inspector of taxes?
    Supposedly HMRC must not discriminate taxpayers (right?), therefore it they withdrew the DA for one, they will...
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    See here....

    See here.
    https://www.dotas-scandal.org/top-100-law-firm-explains-why-hmrc-benefits-from-tax-avoidance-schemes/
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    Largely besides the point. You've been set-up,...

    Largely besides the point.
    You've been set-up, mostly.
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    Why, pray tell, did you think it couldn't happen...

    Why, pray tell, did you think it couldn't happen again?
    Serious question. Obviously, contractors as a group learnt nothing from that debacle, and continued in their selfish, "I'm all right Jack"...
  5. The "loan charge" is due against tax year...

    The "loan charge" is due against tax year 2019-2020. It's, allegedly, a "new charge" on a "new loan".

    Of course, the "loan charge" is primarily a big gun pointed at the head of contractors to...
  6. This is exactly true, and precisely how HMRC...

    This is exactly true, and precisely how HMRC screwed contractors: by playing on their "I'm all right Jack" attitude.
    I remember well how the non-DOTAS contractors mocked the DOTAS contractors when...
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    I'm one of these "running out of options" folks...

    I'm one of these "running out of options" folks and for me it's about much more than money - if I won the lottery tomorrow and was in position to "pay up", my anger would be intact.
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    It's not only money

    "It's just money", alright. Except it's not. In many cases, your life savings represent your time of life, your sacrifices, the opportunities you chose not to take.
    in that sense, HMRC and its...
  9. Thread: BIG GROUP

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    Sticky: Precisely. There is a very large "punishment"...

    Precisely.
    There is a very large "punishment" component to this whole affair.
    Punishment for what? Not "knowing our place", that's what!
    You don't indulge in something reserved for members of the...
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    https://www.dotas-scandal.org/top-100-law-firm-exp...

    https://www.dotas-scandal.org/top-100-law-firm-explains-why-hmrc-benefits-from-tax-avoidance-schemes/
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    In other words HMRC have completed their...

    In other words HMRC have completed their transition from a legally-bound tax authority to an extortion operation / mafia.
    I like when things are clear.
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    https://www.dotas-scandal.org/top-100-law-firm-exp...

    https://www.dotas-scandal.org/top-100-law-firm-explains-why-hmrc-benefits-from-tax-avoidance-schemes/
  13. Thread: BIG GROUP

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    Sticky: It's not about money, it's about punishment (i.e....

    It's not about money, it's about punishment (i.e. torture).
    They simply don't want to give closure to anyone.
    You are not the only one in this position.
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    And here you have, my friend, underlined the...

    And here you have, my friend, underlined the entire paradox of the situation HMRC have created for themselves.
    Without even going into the topic that the 4 Bn they boast about are not "tax...
  15. Until they run out of contractors to milk. Which...

    Until they run out of contractors to milk. Which could come very quickly - politicians being notoriously inept at predicting the consequences of their actions on the behavior of economic agents.
    As...
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    Presumably because the liability falls on the...

    Presumably because the liability falls on the employer, not the employee. HMRC is entitled to collection from the employer, but as the employer and the employer's money are gone, there is nothing to...
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    Not familiar with the AML game plan, but aren't...

    Not familiar with the AML game plan, but aren't closure notices a necessary prelude to FTT?
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    Never underestimate a Tory's chutzpah. It'll...

    Never underestimate a Tory's chutzpah. It'll happen.
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    Go ahead...if you like to gamble with your life...

    Go ahead...if you like to gamble with your life savings.
  20. Meet HMRC's very own little Goebbelses.... I...

    Meet HMRC's very own little Goebbelses.... I wonder how many millions of public money have been funnelled into this psychological warfare outfit?...
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    All countries have laws all right... but you'll...

    All countries have laws all right... but you'll find that it's mostly the UK that haz fuzzy laws that are subject to constant "clarification" (reinterpretation), retrospective or otherwise.
    In the...
  22. It's simply the propaganda machine marching on.

    It's simply the propaganda machine marching on.
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    Cornering them at their surgery, however, is...

    Cornering them at their surgery, however, is another matter, and a better use of your time.
    More difficult to dismiss someone looking them in the eye.
    Been saying this since 2013, and I haven't...
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    Good effort, but ultimately you'll find that all...

    Good effort, but ultimately you'll find that all they do is "forward your concerns to the Treasury". Maybe down the line you'll receive a response from David Gauke, kindly forwarded by your MP,...
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    This, times 1000. If you believe anything these...

    This, times 1000.
    If you believe anything these gangsters tell you, it's very much at your own risk.
    Don't say you were not warned.
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    More importantly, there are provisions in the...

    More importantly, there are provisions in the legislation precisely against attempts to repay the loans and "redistribute in a tax efficient way".
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    Out of curiosity, what advice would you be...

    Out of curiosity, what advice would you be expecting?
    All they can tell you is that you'll be left holding the bag.
    (Which is how Gauke wanted it)
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    Think you're mixing up contractors and...

    Think you're mixing up contractors and mercenaries...
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    That's precisely the kind of thing that could and...

    That's precisely the kind of thing that could and should be easily crowdsourced... if contractors weren't busy sitting on their hands.
  30. Bureaucrats cannot imagine a solution outside of...

    Bureaucrats cannot imagine a solution outside of "more bureaucracy". Quite simply, the paper pushers see to it that they remain employed pushing papers around.
    The hilarious thing though is that the...
  31. HMRC "promises" of ANY kind are not worth the...

    HMRC "promises" of ANY kind are not worth the paper they're written on (or not).
    If you had any dealings with them, you'd know they're more of a "I am altering the deal" type of bunch.
    And as for...
  32. Waiting in anticipation for the new breed of...

    Waiting in anticipation for the new breed of "contractor schemes" to sprout as a "solution" to said clusterduck. Fully expecting them to make the EBTs of old look like a conservative solution.
    ...
  33. Neither is Dubai. Or Hong Kong, for that matter....

    Neither is Dubai. Or Hong Kong, for that matter.
    (But I thought there are enough pendants on CUK as it is to even go there...)
  34. It's a pretty damn 100% certain "apparently". ...

    It's a pretty damn 100% certain "apparently".
    Just ask NTRT.
  35. Not only. Plenty of 1st world countries to...

    Not only.
    Plenty of 1st world countries to choose from (as long as you stay clear of the Five Eyes). However surprising it may be to inhabitants of Brexitania Island, not all places in the free...
  36. So you thought it's best to ask on a public forum...

    So you thought it's best to ask on a public forum notoriously scouted by HMRC? Ok...
    I suspect you're not going to get many answers here. You'll probably have more luck on private forums such as Big...
  37. Not stupid, just lazy....

    Not stupid, just lazy.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Four_accounting_firms
  38. HMRC shill?

    HMRC shill?
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    Hilarious :laugh When the tables get turned on...

    Hilarious :laugh

    When the tables get turned on them, they have no idea what to do or to say. It's like a blue screen of death in their brains.

    I'll grab the pop corn and enjoy this show. Think...
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    The hilarious part is the pseudo-outrage about...

    The hilarious part is the pseudo-outrage about "locums holding the NHS to ransom".

    Of course only HMRC have the right to hold anyone to ransom.
  41. Have you checked if the letter is even addressed...

    Have you checked if the letter is even addressed to you?
    I am not joking.
    Someone I know just received an APN... together with the APN for a totally different guy, stuffed in the same enveloppe.
    ...
  42. Yes, Big Group's objectives are largely aligned...

    Yes, Big Group's objectives are largely aligned with your own.
    You'll also find they're the only game in town.
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    Sounds like their phoniest, weakest excuse yet....

    Sounds like their phoniest, weakest excuse yet. <snip>
    Would that resist a FOI request?
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  44. HMRC couldn't give a damn about the rapyment on...

    HMRC couldn't give a damn about the rapyment on your loan.
    It's just an absurd proposition to signify that your choice is pay the tax or to pay the tax.
    In 2019 they want you to pay their "new...
  45. If I offer you 100K now or in 3 years time, what...

    If I offer you 100K now or in 3 years time, what do you prefer?
  46. Thread: STAR

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    Behavioural Insight Ltd...

    Behavioural Insight Ltd 's fingerprints all over it.
    I wonder how much tax money goes to these thugs to craft these social engineering strategies.
  47. A discovery notice is appealable, and you have 30...

    A discovery notice is appealable, and you have 30 days to appeal. Do not panic. You might want to ask a professional outfit familiar with these schemes, like WTT consulting or any other.
  48. Poll: Oh, I'm certain the lawyers will make out like...

    Oh, I'm certain the lawyers will make out like bandits - as they are doing currently with the numerous APN Judicial Reviews (~£500K a pop).
    As usual, we'll be the ones screwed.
    The more things...
  49. Poll: Wonderful! So now each org is making up their...

    Wonderful!
    So now each org is making up their own IR35 rules as they go along.
    That "Reasonable care" thing did not live long.
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    And yours truly ;)

    And yours truly ;)
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