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  1. Courts have become a bit wiser after the spate of...

    Courts have become a bit wiser after the spate of identity thefts for dodgy mobile accounts. The mobile firms then sell the debt to a collection agency who then tried to enforce the debt according to...
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    David, yes they are linked and we who signed the...

    David, yes they are linked and we who signed the agreements know that. However legally they separate flows of money where the two organisations don't really care much about the other.

    Now here is...
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    good luck. Unfortunately I have signed and...

    good luck. Unfortunately I have signed and agreeing a settlement. I would however love to see a few bloody noses if not for me but for those that are still fighting. Best of luck and am following...
  4. I also agree with Regron above btw. problem...

    I also agree with Regron above btw.

    problem is advice costs and a lot of us impacted dont even have that money. Like I said call HMRC first to try and gage if their is any flexibility. Then I...
  5. When you signed your agreement to pay by DD did...

    When you signed your agreement to pay by DD did the letter not state full and final settlement ? Also did you do this all yourself or with the help of an accountant or advisor? I had something...
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    I just found an email in my junk mailbox from...

    I just found an email in my junk mailbox from them.
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    Edge Consulting became Redstone. You can still...

    Edge Consulting became Redstone. You can still email Redstone and ask the questions. Whilst they admit to knowing nothing if you push them they seem to be able to find out the information for you. I...
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    I am trying trust me. I dont sleep at night....

    I am trying trust me. I dont sleep at night. Right now about to negotite a time to pay which realistically I wont be nearly half way to paying before retirement. I dread to think what HMRC will do or...
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    certainly is now although you still need to dig...

    certainly is now although you still need to dig in and muddle through the promotors or sponsored adverts on your Google search and then actually read. Its then you start to realise the horror stories...
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    I wish I could post more on this topic or scheme...

    I wish I could post more on this topic or scheme as I have so much info some of these scheme promoters should be behind bars. Obvisouly I can't......... Problem is I am battered and bruised and...
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    If its Integra then you would have probably...

    If its Integra then you would have probably signed a loan agreement whereby they pay you a small salary and then the rest in the form of loans. Loans are diguised renumeration schemes and so HMRC now...
  12. They do... and having worked in a few of these...

    They do... and having worked in a few of these offshore islands and frequented them many times I can tell you they are incredibly incestious. Probably all drink in the same pub on a friday counting...
  13. Sticky: love this thread. Not sure whether to laugh or...

    love this thread. Not sure whether to laugh or cry. :igmc:

    Its clearly so so true
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    thanks I guess HMRC have more control over the UK...

    thanks I guess HMRC have more control over the UK based companies so can enforce closure.

    I was more referring the offshore trusts like Felicitas where I guess more of these schemes exist. Wonder...
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    but in some if not most cases HMRC have taken or...

    but in some if not most cases HMRC have taken or demanded the tax from the end user (employee). They cant then demand tax on the same money ??
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    Just seen on another thread another Co demanding...

    Just seen on another thread another Co demanding loans be repaid. Question is do people think every single scheme that used a loan struture will eventually recall the loans. Problem is these debt...
  17. every thread goes off topic when it suits.....

    every thread goes off topic when it suits.....
  18. agree to disagree on this. I think a vast...

    agree to disagree on this. I think a vast majority of individuals just didnt want the IR35 issue as why on earth have these schemes multiplied since IR35 was intorduced. Why now after the loan charge...
  19. Not my point. This saga is becoming a never...

    Not my point. This saga is becoming a never ending pit of money for the end user. This was all supposed to be a simple way to circumnavigate complex IR35 law. Not disagreeing that the devil in the...
  20. poor tax payers... more money/costs. Its a joke....

    poor tax payers... more money/costs. Its a joke. HMRC need to really get involved here but I doubt they will.
  21. For those that have settled i.e either declared...

    For those that have settled i.e either declared the loans or signed and agreed the settlement what is the next stage. How do TTP gets sorted.... are we supposed to contact them or while they write to...
  22. and make sure you ask the right question. I asked...

    and make sure you ask the right question. I asked for a SAR and they sent me half the info omitting various communications and stating they did not have to provide it
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    utter joke. this in not a process. This is...

    utter joke. this in not a process. This is something that will change people lives for many years. I am glad i spoke to who i did at HMRC as they were incredible sympathetic to my plight. Something...
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    this is rubbish and I agree with your sentiment,...

    this is rubbish and I agree with your sentiment, for example after reading this thread with no access to a printer i called HMRC to check they received my email notification saying i accepted their...
  25. If the payment was made due to an APN being...

    If the payment was made due to an APN being issued (believe the poster mentioned on another thread the Scheme was Edge) I dont think that qualifies for a repayment.... correct ?
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    I assume this was paid via an APN. If so then I...

    I assume this was paid via an APN. If so then I dont think you are if you are referring the Sir Moorse recommendations
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    Leaving aside the scheme aside I am talking about...

    Leaving aside the scheme aside I am talking about the agreement to settle with HMRC

    The agreement should just say I agree to pay the disputed tax for years x x or z. Why does the first statement...
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    Anyone else got their settlment letter and read...

    Anyone else got their settlment letter and read in detail the statement you sign ?

    What do people think of ....

    "wholly or in part, because of my failure to meet all of my statutory...
  29. I have submitted my Loan via my SATR 18/19. I...

    I have submitted my Loan via my SATR 18/19. I also did some quick tallying up. The difference between the Loan Charge and tax at the time for these years is about £800 less in favour of LC. Those...
  30. I'm just waiting for my letter/mail as i asked...

    I'm just waiting for my letter/mail as i asked and they confirmed they would write to very shortly. I will go back on this and confirm that once i have declared my loans on the SATR and agreed a...
  31. I certainly have the name, exact date and time of...

    I certainly have the name, exact date and time of the call.
  32. interesting in that just come off the phone and...

    interesting in that just come off the phone and and confirmed by HMRC if I declare on my SATR and pay the loan charge the case is closed. Obviosuly I know from some learned on here that is actually...
  33. they the Umbrella will disappear and reinvent...

    they the Umbrella will disappear and reinvent themselves in a new name but same old handshake... if you get my drift.

    Its good your firm will look into this. Probelm is for 20 odd years most end...
  34. yeah the go speak to an advisor kinda covers...

    yeah the go speak to an advisor kinda covers this. Stinks of something that HMRC will ask you to declare and chase without knowing the details.

    I guess i cant believe these schemes are still...
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    becasue you are relatively new to this I assume...

    becasue you are relatively new to this I assume but my comment was not aimed at you. You only have to have a smidgeon of knowledge to know SAM = Sir Amyas Morse and any Google search shows up his...
  36. unfortunately like thousands you have been duped....

    unfortunately like thousands you have been duped. You pay tax on a third of your earnings. The other 2/3 is disguised renumeration as HMRC call it.

    1. Move to an Umbrella that subjects 100% of...
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    OK lets not now all get political. I think we...

    OK lets not now all get political.

    I think we all know that his statement meant tax year rather than when the loan agreement was signed. We all know who SAM is and his recomendations.
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    1 million percent

    1 million percent
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    I get they stay open but if you responded back...

    I get they stay open but if you responded back stating the position and specifically asking for to be closed I read somewhere HMRC have to come back and eventually you end up at tribunal. I guess...
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    Anyone got an idea on this. HMRC open and...

    Anyone got an idea on this.

    HMRC open and enquiry. The tax payers Tax Advisor contests this and gives his client a proforma replay stating why tax is not due and asking for the enquiry to be...
  41. What if the Loan Charge is actually more than the...

    What if the Loan Charge is actually more than the Settlement. Once finality is reached over the back tax do HMRC pay back that additional tax. I'm kinda assuming they wont be rushing to sort that out...
  42. to be fair to people and I know its painful right...

    to be fair to people and I know its painful right now but i was holding for 35 mins yesterday. Day before was over that. Once i did get through they asked me to write in. Take from that what you want...
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    thanks I am chasing them. All their systems...

    thanks

    I am chasing them. All their systems were down and they told me to call back tomorrow.
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    Yes I declared all the loans last year as per the...

    Yes I declared all the loans last year as per the requirement from HMRC to do this. I have registered to settle a long while back. They said they would calculate my settlement. Then it went quiet...
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    I thought there was someting in their charter...

    I thought there was someting in their charter about treating all tax payers the same but thank you for the warning !!
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    With the deadline looming fast to settle anyone...

    With the deadline looming fast to settle anyone else having problems getting HMRC to agree a settlement amount.

    My settlement amount so far.... omits two years. I have asked them and all they say...
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    Good point. I was classed as employed in very...

    Good point. I was classed as employed in very loose terms. I had an employment contract but interesting never once met my manager no was there any structure to this firm. Lets be honest the whole...
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    Can you just apply 10% reduction to each loan...

    Can you just apply 10% reduction to each loan amount without proof of payment to reduce the settlement. I thought you had to proove these payments were made ?
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    Inheritance or pensions. So for me right now with...

    Inheritance or pensions. So for me right now with two kids both in Junior school i dont have much disposable cash. However in 8 years I can draw a pension and lump sum and also may inherit whihc i...
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    there is no limit on the TTP. Obviosuly depends...

    there is no limit on the TTP. Obviosuly depends on your age. I am negotiating but will need to use what they describe as windfalls. Whole thing is painful but i agree with comments about keeping your...
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