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So sorry to hear this has happened to you, hope you and your family are safe and well.

You are a gentleman, it wasn't your comment I felt was snide it was the 'cool story bro' one... which I felt was a little uncalled for.

I agree I probably didn't give enough context and just...

Yes given the deadline after the January one the January was null and voided.

So I am not sure where people are getting 19 months from!?

In the eyes of HMRC I paid and submitted on time,...

Those of us in the Contractor Loan settlement phase etc., were given until October 2020 to file, given permission by HMRC.

So that was my filing deadline. HMRC then sent a late filing penalty...

Despite being given a deadline of October 2020 to file my return (DR/LC etc.)., HMRC still fined me for late filing and late payment.

So I was supposed to file by Jan 31st 2020 but didn't even...

So sorry to hear this. What a beautiful piece of writing to sum her up here.

So sad :(

In total I paid just over £500, sounds a lot I guess but to me it was money well spent.

1. Yes
2. Pretty easy because of next answer
3. Used a tax advisor/specialists
4. Yes
5. They didn't really no
6. 120 months (I have since reduced this to 60 months)

It is stressful and tough...

At least you guys heard the words loans. No one ever said the word loans to me.... It was called trusts and beneficiaries and umbrellas.

Thick
Greedy
Vulnerable
Easily Lead

Could well be quotes from my school report.

It's no wonder it ended badly. I have no excuses.

Fingers crossed for all of those going into bat.

No idea if this is true or not, though it's not always a terrible thing to have the debt in the debt collection agencies hands, certainly the ones I have dealt with in the past who collect on behalf...

HMRC have been using debt collection agencies for a long time, not sure how this is news.

It does appear they actually run a business around tax issues and tax in general.

The posts always seemed succinct, honest and factual.

I for one think the forum will be a lesser place without...

This was the thing for me, the advisors I used were both former HMRC and they just seemed to know how to get consistency and/or the right person on the other end of the phone.

I hope it all works...

The tax specialists I would recommend are (Gilbert Tax) but please bear in mind they won't help you with fighting the loan charge in the way groups mentioned on this post are doing. They are not...

Charge for them?! I wish they would seal the things or get rid of them.

They cause utter chaos, confusion and anger. I mean what the hell do you need them for? Baggage collection at most modern...

Was this still meant to be a post about recommending tax specialists?

Seems to have gone off topic somewhat.

I can highly recommend Gilbert Tax - I hope this helps someone.

Slightly different for me I used tax lawyers I had used for the very first round of this, before the loan charge ruling (when it was good old Tax Avoidance) and the subsequent loan charge. I used...

Ha ha.. maybe it's mutation... I meant :)

I have no idea of course but 10 months to develop a vaccine which ends a global pandemic, seems awfully rushed especially for those of us who have memories of Thalidomide.

I am not so sure I am...

What happens when it gets withdrawn, do the courts notify you or is it just a case of Felicitas letting you know they have withdrawn it?

It wasn't just me then who thought I'd wandered into some kind of waking nightmare... Highest death rate in a week - check
Winter upon us - check
NHS stretched to bursting point - check

Crowds...

They just drew their attention to the SA and wording we had put to cover the settlement and loan charge.

And the paperwork we had with all the settlement details etc.,

I had a similar issue. Similar timeline, call to see if I had all I needed etc.,
I confirmed I had agreed to settle, then I got my settlement details including TTP etc., All agreed and signed etc.,...

Wasn't that long ago they were the drivers in the mediation route.

I think that's a little unfair, there's no pushing just advice. ETC (the other main help in all of this) have made it clear it's moved beyond their experiencet so WTT are an excellent choice and very...

Yeah how dare the government try to protect us from a deadly disease. Outrageous!

Isn't what we are applying to the court to do, to set aside the SD?

So once set aside, this can then be withdrawn?

What do you mean withdraw the SD? Is this an option? And who are you trying to make withdraw the SD?

This is what the EL led us to believe, the main case can be treated as a group so costs will be shared more, however the SD has to be treated individually as the SD is heard in the Court in the...

I agree and from what EL said each SD has to be treated individually so they cannot act as a group for the SDs, for what is to come (or not).

Also not everyone with ETC or EL have received them.

ETC are not recommending the law firm to do anything :) that's not a good move. What the poster meant was ETC have recommended their clients involved in this to use the legal team at Elysium Law.
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You apply for the SD to be set aside and you have to do it at the court mentioned in the SD. Whether that means attending or your lawyer applying on your behalf I'm not sure.

It can be used but the local court can 'set it aside' if there is a disputed debt.

From the little I know it's a mixture... and even those with ETC (and the subsequent lawyers) who had agreed the mediation route got them. Some did not.

A word press site. Enough said.

I do wish HMRC would follow up on their promises to 'go after' these people!

Oh man alive not looking for any of those.

And never would say it was a good idea. Thick greedy contractors will always fall for this kind of thing. Take care.

Woooah there not looking for a fight here, thank for the empathy, just thought it was ironic the quote on the HMRC site.

Not sure if they were illegal why we had to declare DOTAS in the SA then...

What was all the overturning about then? I had a ton of letters/correspondence around how schemes were being over-turned which suggests to me they had to be changed to be collapsed.

HMRC even...

"Previous users of avoidance schemes were told that their arrangements were HMRC compliant, but later found out, to their cost, this was not true."

I love that comment... Actually most of them...

I wish some of the others would do this

To spoil it would have to be a little more specific, there's lots get their bits cut off in GoT

I'm afraid ETC have walked away from this now, no criticism it's just their area of expertise and efforts have come to an end. ETC have provided us with a specialist lawyer, who does seem to be that....

Which other thread was that? Could you link to it or provide the title for searching?

Watching the debate this morning, admittedly the highlights which often show Trump at his worst. I have to say Trump made more sense, answered the questions directly and definitely came out looking...

Classic HMRC quote

I read a book about how HMRC included that in all their letters and it increased their collections by around 15%

I have noticed many debt collection agencies including this...

It has never been a joke, tell that to my wife and family who had to listen to me being violently sick on Wednesday due to the continued worry.

I wish I, as the guilty party for starting the...

Interesting to see the words 'non-refundable loans' in there.