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  1. anyone who frequented these HMRC Scheme enquiries...

    anyone who frequented these HMRC Scheme enquiries forums for the last 3/4 years and is still using these schemes needs their head examined granted. Those that havent found these pages and read...
  2. so we can see why people have racked up years in...

    so we can see why people have racked up years in these schemes. Plus remembering HMRC did nothing to inform the tax payer thier scheme will be challenged and they will be required to pay the tax and...
  3. And he may have declared them on his SATR, been...

    And he may have declared them on his SATR, been told they are an approved scheme and heard nothing from HMRC for a good many years. The said peson probably can't sleep is now having anxiety attacks...
  4. that's certainly the ballpark I would be happy or...

    that's certainly the ballpark I would be happy or expect to pay. This isn't contesting or fighting the tax its just negotiating a TTP on my behalf.

    I've seen amounts like 1500 to 2000.

    Any...
  5. Ive spoken to an Advisor however he has said he...

    Ive spoken to an Advisor however he has said he needs to refer to me.

    Do you mind if I ask how much your advisor charged. My TTP is complicated in that realistically I don't have enough...
  6. TTP - time to pay Loan Charge and Settlement

    Wondered what people experiences are. I see not many people have agreed these.

    So - if we can keep this on topic would be great.


    Has anyone agreed
    How did you find the process and...
  7. yeah that was my original point. A partnership...

    yeah that was my original point. A partnership between HMRC and ASA is like putting a Ferrari engine in a reliant robin. waste of time
  8. How would me as a contractor being told that as...

    How would me as a contractor being told that as part of my contract outside IR35 that I am only allowed to use these x umbrellas all of which are regulated and have proved they deduct Tax and...
  9. well agree to disagree but perhaps on...

    well agree to disagree but perhaps on responsibility. Not all contractor's have your knowledge of the industry and how it works. So reworded to say anyone outside IR35 and using an Umbrella needs...
  10. HMRC have stated they have been doing this for a...

    HMRC have stated they have been doing this for a while. Quicker they take the adds down the quicker they come up. HMRC cannot police the internet its not possible. Nor can ASA really. Christ they...
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    exactly same as me a real impacted contractor

    exactly same as me a real impacted contractor
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    this thread is joke. I am so neutral you would...

    this thread is joke. I am so neutral you would not believe it. I am up too my eyes in phone calls with HMRC trying to settle and the fence I sit on is wider than my grandma's arse.

    EEK you have...
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    Sticky: possibly... but then the commitments made about...

    possibly... but then the commitments made about not forcing people to sell main home or pay half their income …. then they don't need to worry. Gets them out of that little hole
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    Sticky: I believe HMRC are stalling people who trying to...

    I believe HMRC are stalling people who trying to settle or agree a TTP for the loan charge in order just offload to a debt collection agency
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    Sticky: Just seen an interesting tweet. Cant link sorry.....

    Just seen an interesting tweet. Cant link sorry..

    But gist of it is HMRC are transferring out owed tax debt to debt collectors. These debt collectors did not make statements in parliament about...
  16. Given most tax advisors and not picking on any...

    Given most tax advisors and not picking on any for negotiating a settlement, charge around 1000 plus vat to agree sums which are readily available online or one can do themselves I personally think...
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    I am actually trying to settle for my family and...

    I am actually trying to settle for my family and piece of mind and so I take no side nor do I have a grudge to bear. Both Saleos and WebberG are knowledgeable SMEs and have helped me gain a better...
  18. Poll: Dailogue with HMRC helps - I find it pot luck who...

    Dailogue with HMRC helps - I find it pot luck who you speak to. I can figure the tax numbers but if HMRC have charged tax when it was not due would be brilliant
    I think i would like someone for a...
  19. Poll: can you recommend and share. I am stuck between a...

    can you recommend and share. I am stuck between a rock and hardball trying to sort myself
  20. if we want that just google loan charge tax...

    if we want that just google loan charge tax advisors. Bring up nealry a dozen who claim to have exprience or will help and from what I can see an undisclosed fee
  21. Poll: Something to consider. I am settling and trying...

    Something to consider. I am settling and trying to do this myself. Whilst I have no issues with calculating the numbers and negotiating certain expenses etc I would say the hardest thing about doing...
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    as a pure contractor or was one this thread needs...

    as a pure contractor or was one this thread needs to come with a health warning.

    I never realised there were so many tax advisors or more apparent people on the sell side with skin in the game on...
  23. What will happen is on your original SATR where...

    What will happen is on your original SATR where you had 2000 tax free then some in 7.5% some in 34.5% and some in 38.1% (depending on how much in dividends you pay yourself ) they will add your loan...
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    yes posted at 17:30 yesterday as it appeared as I...

    yes posted at 17:30 yesterday as it appeared as I was posting my comment. Its a shame Graham felt he needed to delete. I believe there should be no fighting as divide and conquer suits those with the...
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    thank you very much for this. If Hoey does win...

    thank you very much for this. If Hoey does win then it does sound like this would very much help me with 2 years and 2 APNS issued whilst I was with Edge/Matupi.

    I shall donate albeit a small sum...
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    But to issue the APN to me they needed to...

    But to issue the APN to me they needed to transfer this from the employer to employee right (PAYE credit or whatever it is)? My APN was becasue the scheme was Dotas registered but I thought the...
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    When we say pre 2011 we are referring to the...

    When we say pre 2011 we are referring to the actual tax year and not when you settled?

    Back then wasnt most of the APNs issued because HMRC defeated the scheme ? So are we saying this Hoey case...
  28. Courts have become a bit wiser after the spate of...

    Courts have become a bit wiser after the spate of identity thefts for dodgy mobile accounts. The mobile firms then sell the debt to a collection agency who then tried to enforce the debt according to...
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    David, yes they are linked and we who signed the...

    David, yes they are linked and we who signed the agreements know that. However legally they separate flows of money where the two organisations don't really care much about the other.

    Now here is...
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    good luck. Unfortunately I have signed and...

    good luck. Unfortunately I have signed and agreeing a settlement. I would however love to see a few bloody noses if not for me but for those that are still fighting. Best of luck and am following...
  31. I also agree with Regron above btw. problem...

    I also agree with Regron above btw.

    problem is advice costs and a lot of us impacted dont even have that money. Like I said call HMRC first to try and gage if their is any flexibility. Then I...
  32. When you signed your agreement to pay by DD did...

    When you signed your agreement to pay by DD did the letter not state full and final settlement ? Also did you do this all yourself or with the help of an accountant or advisor? I had something...
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    I just found an email in my junk mailbox from...

    I just found an email in my junk mailbox from them.
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    Edge Consulting became Redstone. You can still...

    Edge Consulting became Redstone. You can still email Redstone and ask the questions. Whilst they admit to knowing nothing if you push them they seem to be able to find out the information for you. I...
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    I am trying trust me. I dont sleep at night....

    I am trying trust me. I dont sleep at night. Right now about to negotite a time to pay which realistically I wont be nearly half way to paying before retirement. I dread to think what HMRC will do or...
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    certainly is now although you still need to dig...

    certainly is now although you still need to dig in and muddle through the promotors or sponsored adverts on your Google search and then actually read. Its then you start to realise the horror stories...
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    I wish I could post more on this topic or scheme...

    I wish I could post more on this topic or scheme as I have so much info some of these scheme promoters should be behind bars. Obvisouly I can't......... Problem is I am battered and bruised and...
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    If its Integra then you would have probably...

    If its Integra then you would have probably signed a loan agreement whereby they pay you a small salary and then the rest in the form of loans. Loans are diguised renumeration schemes and so HMRC now...
  39. They do... and having worked in a few of these...

    They do... and having worked in a few of these offshore islands and frequented them many times I can tell you they are incredibly incestious. Probably all drink in the same pub on a friday counting...
  40. Sticky: love this thread. Not sure whether to laugh or...

    love this thread. Not sure whether to laugh or cry. :igmc:

    Its clearly so so true
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    thanks I guess HMRC have more control over the UK...

    thanks I guess HMRC have more control over the UK based companies so can enforce closure.

    I was more referring the offshore trusts like Felicitas where I guess more of these schemes exist. Wonder...
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    but in some if not most cases HMRC have taken or...

    but in some if not most cases HMRC have taken or demanded the tax from the end user (employee). They cant then demand tax on the same money ??
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    Just seen on another thread another Co demanding...

    Just seen on another thread another Co demanding loans be repaid. Question is do people think every single scheme that used a loan struture will eventually recall the loans. Problem is these debt...
  44. every thread goes off topic when it suits.....

    every thread goes off topic when it suits.....
  45. agree to disagree on this. I think a vast...

    agree to disagree on this. I think a vast majority of individuals just didnt want the IR35 issue as why on earth have these schemes multiplied since IR35 was intorduced. Why now after the loan charge...
  46. Not my point. This saga is becoming a never...

    Not my point. This saga is becoming a never ending pit of money for the end user. This was all supposed to be a simple way to circumnavigate complex IR35 law. Not disagreeing that the devil in the...
  47. poor tax payers... more money/costs. Its a joke....

    poor tax payers... more money/costs. Its a joke. HMRC need to really get involved here but I doubt they will.
  48. For those that have settled i.e either declared...

    For those that have settled i.e either declared the loans or signed and agreed the settlement what is the next stage. How do TTP gets sorted.... are we supposed to contact them or while they write to...
  49. and make sure you ask the right question. I asked...

    and make sure you ask the right question. I asked for a SAR and they sent me half the info omitting various communications and stating they did not have to provide it
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    utter joke. this in not a process. This is...

    utter joke. this in not a process. This is something that will change people lives for many years. I am glad i spoke to who i did at HMRC as they were incredible sympathetic to my plight. Something...
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