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    No, they are linked.... you can tell me the...

    No, they are linked.... you can tell me the emperor has clothes on all you like - but as I've shown - when the rubber hits the road the link will become apparent.

    Bottom line is HMRC will get...
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    IMHO - On paper they may seem separate events but...

    IMHO - On paper they may seem separate events but they are intrinsically linked - two dogs are fighting over the same dinner - only one can win. The 'dinner' is only so big.

    PS - One dog claims...
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    If I look at my own situation (which I'm sure is...

    If I look at my own situation (which I'm sure is like many others) it would not be in HMRCs interest for me to be pursued for the 'loan' I couldn't pay both - so my settlement with HMRC would be in...
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    Personally, I don't expect a court to have such a...

    Personally, I don't expect a court to have such a narrow view - I believe it would fall over at the point of looking at the documentation as my 'loan' contract is full of holes and does not reflect a...
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    Hi, I'm in almost exactly the same boat -...

    Hi,

    I'm in almost exactly the same boat - paying HMRC back over 10 years etc. I've stated on here many time that, in my opinion, the reclaiming of the loans is just a shakedown which will never...
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    FWIW - I was with K2/Hyrax et al. I have settled...

    FWIW - I was with K2/Hyrax et al. I have settled with HMRC, I will never pay FS capital a single penny (under any circumstance), I know another 4 in exactly the same boat - none of us ever...
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    You do have a conflict of interest, however I...

    You do have a conflict of interest, however I don't think you are acting fraudulently, you are simply helping protect the vulnerable from being defrauded.
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    Yes, in excess of 150 months... I could probably...

    Yes, in excess of 150 months... I could probably have paid in 120 months but I have nearly £20k of Forward Interest and £8k of past interest added on....
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    For anyone who is interested, I've agreed a...

    For anyone who is interested, I've agreed a settlement today, Lump sum + > 150 months to pay back the rest.

    Out.
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    It's a huge fraud.... only people with an...

    It's a huge fraud.... only people with an interest will say anything different.
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    Thanks for that - much appreciated.

    Thanks for that - much appreciated.
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    Do you mind sharing how long you have been given...

    Do you mind sharing how long you have been given to pay?
  13. Classic HMRC - they are just awesome... I'm close...

    Classic HMRC - they are just awesome... I'm close to settling and it has always been my fear that the chronic mismanagement will continue through the TTP process. In particular the affects that lump...
  14. It is either a loan and can be called in or it is...

    It is either a loan and can be called in or it is disguised income and can be taxed. The government believes it is the latter and whilst this is the case no amount of BS or smoke and mirrors about...
  15. There is no debt.

    There is no debt.
  16. If someone pays back the loan as well as settling...

    If someone pays back the loan as well as settling they are actually beyond crazy... You earned £1 through your own hard work, you paid HMRC ~40pence of that £1 by way of settlement then you paid ~80p...
  17. It's a simple scam - if you pay them I would...

    It's a simple scam - if you pay them I would suggest there is every chance they will come back for more (potentially in some other guise) It's just a scam and should be treated as such. IMHO. Never...
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    TTP Latest

    So, I have my answer to what happens next (after offering a TTP amount that I know HMRC wont accept). Their letter states that "as you have asked to pay by instalments over a long period of time, we...
  19. Spot on - every time someone pays these parasites...

    Spot on - every time someone pays these parasites they encourage them to hang around. Never pay a single penny.
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    Thanks for this, there is only one other person...

    Thanks for this, there is only one other person on LCAG's books in my constituency - I| have written to my MP on numerous occasions and intend to arrange an appointment to visit.

    I can see an...
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    Thoughts on Settlement Terms

    So, I'm in the process of trying to settle, I have responded to HMRC with a proposal but I can only afford a payment plan that I don't believe they will currently accept (I also know several other...
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    X2 -- If you touch this based on RVQC's opinion...

    X2 -- If you touch this based on RVQC's opinion or participation you will be very, very sorry IMHO.
  23. Managed to find it by accessing change.org and...

    Managed to find it by accessing change.org and using search term 'Loan Charge'

    Cheers.
  24. Not sure your link (in original email is working)...

    Not sure your link (in original email is working) it certainly wont open for me. Cheers.
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    Yes, one arrived for my wife even though she...

    Yes, one arrived for my wife even though she settled in full nearly 18 months ago..... Why can't they seem to ever get it right?
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    If you have a labour MP I suggest you email them...

    If you have a labour MP I suggest you email them now - as it looks like they are refusing to support NC31....
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    I agree with you completely and may be it hasn't...

    I agree with you completely and may be it hasn't failed in the courts but it has certainly failed me and many more.....

    Whether the defence fund ever even existed is a another 'grey' area... !
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    I bet it made interesting reading for the judge...

    I bet it made interesting reading for the judge to see that Robert Veneables QC was all over the literature as the 'architect and QC approver' of the scheme he was now defending....

    The £3...
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    I've just had the time to go through this - ha,...

    I've just had the time to go through this - ha, what a read....

    "The slide went on to explain that the trustee was bound by law to act solely in interests of the beneficiary and (implied) a...
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    Thanks, makes sense, I obviously have it back to...

    Thanks, makes sense, I obviously have it back to front..
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    Initially K2 (Cirus Lighthouse) 2012/13 which was...

    Initially K2 (Cirus Lighthouse) 2012/13 which was not DOTAS registered and subsequently it morphed into Hyrax in 2014 which was DOTAS.

    I cant recall the exact reasons but I remember the scheme...
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    Yes, unfortunately for me, all my years are open...

    Yes, unfortunately for me, all my years are open and my last 18months have a DOTAS number..... :(
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    I think LCAG probably acknowledge that this is...

    I think LCAG probably acknowledge that this is one (albeit critical) battle in a war.

    I am personally concerned that the LC is scrapped and very shortly after I receive more APNs which, more or...
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    It really is now or never for the loan charge - I...

    It really is now or never for the loan charge - I would encourage everyone to email their MP and ask them to support the amendments to the finance bill. It literally takes 5mins to email them.
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    Letter to my MP (After reading a positive note...

    Letter to my MP (After reading a positive note from LCAG* I'm in full letter writing mode today)

    Dear Sir,

    As you are aware from my previous correspondence, I am subject to the 2019 Loan...
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    MIND

    My letter to MIND this morning:

    To : paulfarmer@mind.org.uk

    Dear Sir,

    I, like many millions of others respect the important and crucial work that MIND does across the UK. Assuming that MIND...
  37. "I intend to pay them absolutely zilch. You have...

    "I intend to pay them absolutely zilch. You have to stand up to these people, otherwise, where does it stop?"

    Nailed it - never ever a single penny....
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    McMillions

    I finished watching McMillions last night: I was struck by the terms that the 'fraudsters' had to pay back their debts. Essentially the key guy, Jerome Jacobson, defrauded McDonalds of ~$24 million -...
  39. I just wanted to say the FS Capital are also...

    I just wanted to say the FS Capital are also chasing the 'loans' for the K2, Lighthouse and Hyrax schemes (I know there is a separate thread but it would be ideal to have these listed for Moneybox as...
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    Jesse Norman

    Yes, Jesse Norman is clearly a big supporter of HMRC and the Loan Charge and his arrogant and dismissive performance is hard to watch.

    This is the email I sent him this morning, I've not even...
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    Call for evidence - by tonight

    Although, I expect it to fall on deaf ears I have made an attempt at describing the misery the loan charge has brought to me and my family I suggest everyone does the same, even if just for cathartic...
  42. HMRC says the loan is taxable, therefore it cannot be a loan. Right? Right (FTFY)

    If a case ever makes it to court - It will be proved that it can't be both... It simply cant be when you follow the money (as will surely happen) and I can never foresee a scenario where someone...
  43. As noted elsewhere in this thread I think paying...

    As noted elsewhere in this thread I think paying a single penny is opening you up to potential further extortion - It's like giving the Nigerian scammers your bank details and asking that they only...
  44. This is indeed the elephant in the room...

    This is indeed the elephant in the room...
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    He is also the guy who designed/QC approved K2...

    He is also the guy who designed/QC approved K2 and several other schemes...
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    I know 4 other people who have received these...

    I know 4 other people who have received these letters/demands from FS Capital (relating to Pinotage/K2/\hyrax) and not one of them has replied in any form (same goes for me). Stay strong, delete it...
  47. HOLD THE LINE - Be brave, be strong and don't...

    HOLD THE LINE - Be brave, be strong and don't waiver - Personally I will never ever, ever pay a single penny no matter what the circumstance. I've never even acknowledged these 'demands' and never...
  48. I do believe time is a useful strategy, as has...

    I do believe time is a useful strategy, as has been said many time 'low hanging fruit' is what (I believe) these crooks are after. I do not believe they possess the will or in most cases the...
  49. As I've stated many times I wont ever pay the...

    As I've stated many times I wont ever pay the 'loan' back in any circumstances and I agree with many posters on here that attempts to get the loans back are just scams that will come to nothing.
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    Hmm, it's a good point actually, all the more...

    Hmm, it's a good point actually, all the more reason never to acknowledge or pay these crooks.
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