Missing Visual Studio 'Empty Web' project type

[Durbs]

As the title says, i need to create a project of type 'VB Empty Web Project' but as i'm using the Standard version from the Action Pack it doesn't have this template included

Looks like my VB web templates are under: C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\Common7\IDE\ProjectTemplates\VisualBasic\Web\1 033 and seem to be zip files.

Anyone know where (or if) i can download the VB empty web one?

Ta.

[HairyArsedBloke]

Not that it helps much, but my VS2008 Team System (i.e. the full monty version) contains no such thing either.

[Durbs]

Not that it helps much, but my VS2008 Team System (i.e. the full monty version) contains no such thing either.

Bizarre, i'll have to check my clientCo VS2005 instance tomorrow.

I've got 'Empty Project' under Visual Basic --> Windows, but what i've read suggests there should be an Visual Basic --> Web --> 'Empty Web Project'.

Ah well, i've just created a Web App project and deleted all the crud and references.

(Ta for checking anyway!)

[Durbs]

Doh!

Its there but under File --> 'New Web Site' rather than 'New Project'

[TheBigYinJames]

Doh!

Its there but under File --> 'New Web Site' rather than 'New Project'

I was about to say but you replied.

Be very afraid of doing New Project -> Website because you get a website application rather than a straight website, which has serious implications for Edit & Continue etc, precompilation, etc.

[Jaws]

I was about to say but you replied.

Be very afraid of doing New Project -> Website because you get a website application rather than a straight website, which has serious implications for Edit & Continue etc, precompilation, etc.

I suppose that depends on your coding style and the projects you work on; personally I prefer it that way. There are a lot of benefits in using that project type over a "WebSite".

[TheBigYinJames]

I suppose that depends on your coding style and the projects you work on; personally I prefer it that way. There are a lot of benefits in using that project type over a "WebSite".

There are pros and cons of each.

I've never been able to get Edit & Continue working with Web Applications - even with the appropriate boxes ticked in prefs - this can have serious impact on development time, since if you're 5 pages into a formset and you have to restart the app in order to test some minor fix, that's a complete pain. Also if you want to do point releases (singe files) this won't work with precompiled assemblies (unless you do by-page assemblies)

At the same time, Web apps ahve their advantages - default Namespaces, deployment projects etc.

[Durbs]

Yeah, never understood why they ended up with the Web Site vs Web Application templates.

I 'generally' use the Web Site template for web apps but this causes issues if using something like VisualSVN which (or used to) 'partially' supports the Web Site model but supports the Web App model ok.