November 22nd - The death of contracting as we know it

[SueEllen]

That niche wouldn't be Advanced CUK Forum Post Formatting would it? I'm impressed

He is niche.

[jamesbrown]

In short, nobody knows anything for sure. Good job, HMRC.

We're also guessing about how the "private sector" (as a vast aggregation of various sectors) will respond. It will respond differently to the PS, we can be fairly sure about that. There's a range of possible outcomes. It's pretty clear that a line will be drawn in the morass of grey, but how close or far away that line is drawn from BAU/BoS contractors remains to be seen.

[Jenme]

Just so I am clear, if I was IR35 caught could I pay myself and my wife an income? Or do I have to pay it all as income to me?

You have to pay it all to yourself. Also, take a look at the Employment Allowance. You can’t that claim if you’re the director and the only employee paid above the Secondary Threshold or you’re a service company working under ‘IR35 rules’ and your only income is the earnings of the intermediary (such as your personal service company, limited company or partnership).

Thought I'd compound the good news

[washed up contractor]

If, at last, the new rules put all those inside IR35 who should have been all along, then in my analysis this can only be a good thing. Then, for the small minority who remain, when you engage on a gig in a true B2B relationship, the client taking the risk of the IR35 determination, everyone is happy. The contractor no longer needs the ridiculous parasitic overheads of IR35 insurance and the like. For those on a B2B contract, it is a happy outcome. Ofcourse, if as the majority are, you are really a disguised temporary employee then belly ache all you like, you had a good run but now it's over. Suck it up.

The naivety in this post is as nauseating as it is laughable. Carry on believing if HMG \ HMRC capture the, by inference, 'majority' that they'll never come for the minority eventually.

And then you'll squeal like the pig you are that's about to be slaughtered.

[matzie]

I'm starting to think there might not be any direct mention of IR35 this time around - but instead a big jump in dividend tax, with measures to protect pensioners and target us.

[eek]

I'm starting to think there might not be any direct mention of IR35 this time around - but instead a big jump in dividend tax, with measures to protect pensioners and target us.

So you clearly haven't seen today's mail on Sunday...

[matzie]

So you clearly haven't seen today's mail on Sunday...

:-( No... what does it say? Sigh.

[matzie]

:-( No... what does it say? Sigh.

Self-employed face new onslaught in the Budget | Daily Mail Online

Nothing new really.

[Fred Bloggs]

The naivety in this post is as nauseating as it is laughable. Carry on believing if HMG \ HMRC capture the, by inference, 'majority' that they'll never come for the minority eventually.

And then you'll squeal like the pig you are that's about to be slaughtered.

'snot gonna be me squealing. Nope. Not a chance.

[eek]

Self-employed face new onslaught in the Budget | Daily Mail Online

Nothing new really.

The fact it’s repeating 2 week old news 3 days before the budget is significant. It means those items haven’t been rejected and are likely to be announced