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    Default New wording for contracts

    Do we need new names for working?

    Contracting - Outside IR35 roles provided via a Limited Company Contractor
    Temping - Inside IR35 roles worked as an employee of an Umbrella / Agency / Client
    Permanent - Directly employed

    Would make all those job boards / filters easier to work with?
    Last edited by pacontracting; 27th February 2020 at 10:07.

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    What about inside IR35 roles that are on client/agency payroll? They aren't permanent, as that term implies benefits of perm which one wouldn't be in receipt of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladymuck View Post
    What about inside IR35 roles that are on client/agency payroll? They aren't permanent, as that term implies benefits of perm which one wouldn't be in receipt of.
    You are right - edited accordingly.

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    Also, you can be outside IR35 but choose to work via an umbrella

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladymuck View Post
    Also, you can be outside IR35 but choose to work via an umbrella
    Umbrella = employed = IR35 is irrelevant. Unless you were making a joke that I'm too dense to get...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amanensia View Post
    Umbrella = employed = IR35 is irrelevant. Unless you were making a joke that I'm too dense to get...
    2 doesn't follow one.

    IR35 and SDC are very relevant for getting expenses from an umbrella..
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    Quote Originally Posted by pacontracting View Post
    Do we need new names for working?

    Contracting - Outside IR35 roles provided via a Limited Company Contractor
    Temping - Inside IR35 roles worked as an employee of an Umbrella / Agency / Client
    Permanent - Directly employed

    Would make all those job boards / filters easier to work with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by eek View Post
    2 doesn't follow one.

    IR35 and SDC are very relevant for getting expenses from an umbrella..
    How? SDC yes, but IR35? It simply doesn't apply once you're a fully PAYE employee, whether of an umbrella company or not.

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    Funny that Jobserve has just done a redesign of most screens but as far as I can tell hasn't made any changes to accomodate these new terms. Might be nice to have the IR35 status as part of the metadata for each role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amanensia View Post
    How? SDC yes, but IR35? It simply doesn't apply once you're a fully PAYE employee, whether of an umbrella company or not.
    A contract inside IR35 means you are subject to SDC so you can stop the decision making process immediately
    merely at clientco for the entertainment

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