Legally, whose choice is it which Ubrella Company I work with? Legally, whose choice is it which Ubrella Company I work with? - Page 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucyclarityumbrella View Post
    I think that is the key, the agencies are simply relying on the audit with no actual due diligence over and above that from what I have seen.
    My statement was "As an agent....." for good reason because of the previous sentence - as an agent you don't want an umbrella firm causing problems running deemed payments attached to SDS appeals is just going to cause pain for the agency and end clients.. Hence you may well adopt a rule of this list of umbrellas and no one else..

    Now I know you don't want to hear this but there do seem to be a lot of fully PAYE compliant umbrellas (for want of a better means of differentiating between umbrellas and tax avoidance outfits) currently offering to support Expense claims and SDS appeals to attract customers. This may be because they don't fully understand the new world, it could be just doing whatever is necessary for their month end bonus..
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    Quote Originally Posted by eek View Post
    Now I know you don't want to hear this but there do seem to be a lot of fully PAYE compliant umbrellas (for want of a better means of differentiating between umbrellas and tax avoidance outfits) currently offering to support Expense claims and SDS appeals to attract customers.
    Always happy to hear and I do get it, but there are also many umbrella's operating compliantly who can now not get a look in as the PSLs are closed off!

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    In my case its not the agency who dictates which umbrella I should use (they have a list of about 6 that they currently use) but the end client.
    My client are forcing all contractors to use Giant - my last choice. The reason for their choice, we were told, was there is little or no time to do any due diligence and Gaint are the cheapest we have found !!

    Sign with Giant or go is my current option.

    I'm not sure about other umbrella companies but with Giant your payslip is split into basic pay and a bonus which is OK since you end up with the same money in your pocket at the end of day. However, the bonus is discretionary and doesn't form part of any contractual agreement.

    So in other words Giant are only contractually obliged to pay you National Minimum Wage (for 366 hours a year). I'm sure they will also forward the full amount (minus NIC and TAX) from the agency to me, but contractually they don't have to. Should I have an issue with this?

    The way I see it is that Giant are taking all the possible risks associated with being an employer and pasting them onto me.

    Is this the way all umbrella companies work?

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