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    Quote Originally Posted by cojak View Post
    But they already have and no-one is using it??
    Is IPSE on its way out then?
    I am new to contracting & have seen a lot of negativity in regards to IPSE. Should I not even contemplate joining it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by james12 View Post
    Is IPSE on its way out then?
    I am new to contracting & have seen a lot of negativity in regards to IPSE. Should I not even contemplate joining it?
    James
    Depends

    Are you are returning mum from maternity leave with poor broadband? - if so yes join

    If you are an IT contractor who’s only worry is IR35 probably not as 20 years and £75 million (fag packet cacl) of members money spent, IR35 kills our business stone dead in the coming months


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    Quote Originally Posted by james12 View Post
    Is IPSE on its way out then?
    I am new to contracting & have seen a lot of negativity in regards to IPSE. Should I not even contemplate joining it?
    James
    Negativity from some - mostly those who haven't accepted that the world is moving on, and one or two working ancient agendas..

    Ignore them, and the other areas that IPSE are moving into. Just make a simple commercial decision if membership is cost effective. Quite a lot of people think it is.
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    ..and take up the insurance from QDOS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by james12 View Post
    Is IPSE on its way out then?
    I am new to contracting & have seen a lot of negativity in regards to IPSE. Should I not even contemplate joining it?
    James
    There's always been a lot of negativity towards IPSE.

    IPSE made some changes to their governance last year, which was unpopular with many of us, but hasn't fundamentally affected what IPSE do.

    I'm still a member, and happy to recommend membership - both for the benefits, and for the lobbying work they do on IR35 - it may be ineffective, but I don't think that means they shouldn't be trying.

    As regards to whether it's "on it's way out", it may be that once the IR35 changes come into the private sector, many members may feel they no longer want to operate as a business and therefore IPSE may not be for them. IPSE are broadening their membership base to counteract that risk. It's going to be around for a while - how it shapes up long term remains to be seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by james12 View Post
    Is IPSE on its way out then?
    I am new to contracting & have seen a lot of negativity in regards to IPSE. Should I not even contemplate joining it?
    James
    In terms of lobbying, IPSE are about to fall well behind. HOME | Loancharge is taking over.

    In terms of insurance, IPSE are good. QDOS are better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cojak View Post
    ..and take up the insurance from QDOS.
    As well as IPSE membership?


    Quote Originally Posted by BrilloPad View Post

    In terms of insurance, IPSE are good. QDOS are better.
    So do most people have both IPSE & QDOS (or another insurance provider)?

    Is there not a one stop shop? Or is it naive to think one company/organisation can do it all?



    Quote Originally Posted by BrilloPad View Post
    In terms of lobbying, IPSE are about to fall well behind. HOME | Loancharge is taking over.
    Is there still mileage in lobbying? Not to sound pessimistic, IR35 feels like its here to stay. Isn't it about damage limitation now?

    Thanks for your replies everyone!
    Last edited by james12; 23rd October 2019 at 09:41.

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    There are some subtle differences between the package IPSE offers and the individual items you can buy from Qdos to make up your own package. I would recommend you look at both and consider what you need vs the cost and make your own decision.

    You get the benefit of IPSE's lobbying whether or not you go with them.

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