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scooterscot
21st December 2016, 10:38
Saved from them Tories, saved by the EU.

Sooner we're out of that madhouse sooner we can be paid for spying on our friends and family.



EU data retention ruling goes against UK

Woman using a laptopPA
The European Court of Justice has ruled against the UK government following a legal challenge over data retention.

EU judges said communications data could only be retained if it was used to fight serious crime.

The legal challenge was initially championed by Brexit Secretary David Davis, who was then a backbench Conservative MP.

The Home Office said it was "disappointed" with the judgement and would consider implications.

The Lib Dems said the ruling proved the government had "overstepped the mark" with its Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Act, branded the "snoopers' charter" by critics, which requires communications companies to retain data for 12 months.

'Proper scrutiny'

The ECJ said a "general and indiscriminate retention" of data was against EU law and could only be done under certain conditions and "solely for the purpose of fighting serious crime".

Its ruling confirmed a preliminary verdict in July. The case now returns to the UK Court of Appeal, which had referred it to the ECJ for clarification.

Mr Davis, who had long campaigned on civil liberties issues, left the case after Theresa May appointed him to her cabinet in July.

Tom Watson, Labour's deputy leader, who is one of those bringing the case, said: "This ruling shows it's counter-productive to rush new laws through Parliament without a proper scrutiny."

The Home Office said it would be putting forward "robust arguments" to the Court of Appeal.

It added: "Given the importance of communications data to preventing and detecting crime, we will ensure plans are in place so that the police and other public authorities can continue to acquire such data in a way that is consistent with EU law and our obligation to protect the public."

The data in question refers to details such as the time and data of a phone call being made or an email being sent - but not its contents.

source: EU data retention ruling goes against UK - BBC News (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38390150)

DaveB
21st December 2016, 10:49
Saved from them Tories, saved by the EU.

Sooner we're out of that madhouse sooner we can be paid for spying on our friends and family.




source: EU data retention ruling goes against UK - BBC News (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38390150)

But what have the EU ever done for us?

TheFaQQer
21st December 2016, 10:58
But what have the EU ever done for us?

The aqueduct?

Paddy
21st December 2016, 11:02
Saved from them Tories, saved by the EU.

Sooner we're out of that madhouse sooner we can be paid for spying on our friends and family.




source: EU data retention ruling goes against UK - BBC News (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38390150)

Let’s have a Daily Mail – Daily Express Headline competition for this

BlasterBates
21st December 2016, 11:09
Let’s have a Daily Mail – Daily Express Headline competition for this

what about "Brussels meddling to stop UK holding data on foreign criminals"

I knew I should have been a journalist :D

VectraMan
21st December 2016, 11:21
Let’s have a Daily Mail – Daily Express Headline competition for this

Mail: EU ruling causes cancer.
Express: EU ruling causes longest coldest winter since records began.

TheFaQQer
21st December 2016, 11:36
Mail: EU ruling causes cancer.
Express: EU ruling causes longest coldest winter since records began.

Express page 2: What would Diana think about the EU ruling?

NotAllThere
21st December 2016, 11:49
Express page 3: EU ruling hinders search for Maddie.

TheFaQQer
21st December 2016, 11:55
Express page 4-18: Richard Desmond and his stunning wife Joy go to dinner while the EU ruins everything

NickFitz
21st December 2016, 12:42
Express page 4-18: Richard Desmond and his stunning wife Joy go to dinner while the EU ruins everything

:rollin:

northernladyuk
21st December 2016, 12:51
Mail: Hang Labour race traitors now.

GB9
21st December 2016, 13:42
Wasn't it Sturgeon's idea to have a named person to spy on people's children in Scotland and then report the number of fried Mars bars they had each week to the social services?

Either way, you guys are making us leavers obsolete. You are doing an excellent job of showing why we voted leave.

Carry On Remnants!

DaveB
21st December 2016, 14:00
Wasn't it Sturgeon's idea to have a named person to spy on people's children in Scotland and then report the number of fried Mars bars they had each week to the social services?

Either way, you guys are making us leavers obsolete. You are doing an excellent job of showing why we voted leave.

Carry On Remnants!

Yes it was, and that idea was rightly thrown out by the Supreme Court, citing the European Convention on Human Rights and the fact that it breached the rights to privacy and a family life.

What exactly has that got to do with the European Court ruling in favor of protecting our privacy under the same legislation?

NotAllThere
21st December 2016, 15:56
Yes it was, and that idea was rightly thrown out by the Supreme Court, citing the European Convention on Human Rights and the fact that it breached the rights to privacy and a family life.

What exactly has that got to do with the European Court ruling in favor of protecting our privacy under the same legislation?

Now, by nice. GB9 is logically impaired.

AtW
21st December 2016, 16:20
Saved from them Tories, saved by the EU.

Sooner we're out of that madhouse sooner we can be paid for spying on our friends and family.

source: EU data retention ruling goes against UK - BBC News (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38390150)

Yet another great reason to be part of EU! :frown

No court (specific crime) warrant - no wiretapping, simple rule really.

original PM
21st December 2016, 16:24
Do you really think that the EU has ruled against this because it is has some form of interest in the UK population?

Of course they have not - they have a chance to derail something the UK is doing so they took it....

Like the spoilt fat kid taking his football home cos he is not allowed to be 'Rooney'

AtW
21st December 2016, 16:29
Of course they have not - they have a chance to derail something the UK is doing so they took it....

So you think mass surveillance of all population is OK then?

Mainframe gent
21st December 2016, 16:30
So you think mass surveillance of all population is OK then?


Yes. If we keep an eye on everyone we can assimilate more refugees

GB9
21st December 2016, 16:53
Now, by nice. GB9 is logically impaired.

:spel

If you're going to take the pee at least have the decency to check the auto correct. :happy

DaveB
21st December 2016, 17:30
Do you really think that the EU has ruled against this because it is has some form of interest in the UK population?

Of course they have not - they have a chance to derail something the UK is doing so they took it....

Like the spoilt fat kid taking his football home cos he is not allowed to be 'Rooney'

You do know that the case was brought by David Davis, the Brexit Secretary, don't you?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/12/21/theresa-mays-snoopers-charter-dealt-major-setback-eu-court-rules/


The European Court of Justice ruled that EU laws forbid the “general and indiscriminate” retention of internet data, following a challenge to British surveillance powers originally brought by Conservative MP David Davis and Labour’s Tom Watson.

northernladyuk
21st December 2016, 19:00
Do you really think that the EU has ruled against this because it is has some form of interest in the UK population?

Of course they have not - they have a chance to derail something the UK is doing so they took it....

Like the spoilt fat kid taking his football home cos he is not allowed to be 'Rooney'

You are sick in t'head.

shaunbhoy
21st December 2016, 19:52
One wonders if any of this "retained data" has proved useful in preventing us suffering the sort of terror attacks that seem so prevalent in other parts of the EU that are more "liberated"?