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northernladyuk
22nd August 2017, 12:54
Place yer bets.

scooterscot
22nd August 2017, 13:00
https://image.ibb.co/dAmnu5/dc.jpg

_V_
22nd August 2017, 20:42
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/aug/22/uk-public-finances-budget-first-july-surplus-since-2002
Salmon sales surge as UK food exports hit record high - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40963631)
UK exports to the EU surge on weaker pound (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/08/17/uk-exports-eu-surge-weaker-pound/)
UK unemployment falls to new 42-year low - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40947087)

The bad news just keeps coming....

Mordac
22nd August 2017, 22:44
"So we all accept now..."

Speak for yerself...:winker:

NotAllThere
23rd August 2017, 05:28
"So we all accept now..."

Speak for yerself...Ah, denial.
:winker:And there's the anger.

Next is bargaining. Which, seeing as that's the responsibility of the current shower in government, will rapidly lead to depression.

northernladyuk
23rd August 2017, 06:59
Ah, denial. And there's the anger.

Next is bargaining. Which, seeing as that's the responsibility of the current shower in government, will rapidly lead to depression.

They do seem cross, given that they have led the nation from the evil grips of the EUSSR into the sunny uplands of prosperity.

BrilloPad
23rd August 2017, 07:11
Ah, denial. And there's the anger.

Next is bargaining. Which, seeing as that's the responsibility of the current shower in government, will rapidly lead to depression.

How are we supposed to tell if you are angry since you are all of the time?

Not one sensible Brexit post yet - quite amazing.

Are posters allowed to put mods on ignore? Its certainly helped me alot putting most Bremoaners on ignore.

northernladyuk
23rd August 2017, 07:38
How are we supposed to tell if you are angry since you are all of the time?

Not one sensible Brexit post yet - quite amazing.

Are posters allowed to put mods on ignore? Its certainly helped me alot putting most Bremoaners on ignore.

#brexitsnowflakesafespace

shaunbhoy
23rd August 2017, 08:03
426 days have elapsed and the Bremoaner toys are still strewn across the nursery floor.

:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh

rl4engc
23rd August 2017, 08:05
Has northernladyuk not got any EU Media Directives to read? Rather than posting tulip Anti-Brexit polls all day? :laugh

One would assume the bench time is a-comin'. :grin

BlasterBates
23rd August 2017, 08:19
It is certainly interesting to listen to the Brexit education going on, on LBC phone ins.

It is a slow process but listeners are beginning to realise what a huge f** up it is. Still a lot of die hards around, so I think the real education will occur day one after Brexit when the sh*t really does hit the fan.

:D

shaunbhoy
23rd August 2017, 08:33
It is certainly interesting to listen to the Brexit education going on, on LBC phone ins.



Well of course, because London was really split down the middle on the issue. I am sure there are all sorts of balanced views being aired.

:eyes

Mordac
23rd August 2017, 08:45
Ah, denial. And there's the anger.

Next is bargaining. Which, seeing as that's the responsibility of the current shower in government, will rapidly lead to depression.

Denial, anger, depression. Sounds like it's time for your meds Nat, me old fruit...:(

sasguru
23rd August 2017, 08:52
Can't wait for Brexit personally. But I don't think it will happen. There'll be a fudge, sadly.

sasguru
23rd August 2017, 09:01
The unemployment rates falling combined with no wage increases on average suggest that Britain is creating lots of low-wage, unproductive jobs e.g. Uber drivers.
And those of us well connected in London know that the better-paid jobs and companies are haemorrhaging at a rate that is under-reported in the press, because most companies don't want to publicise Brexit-caused moves.
In the HEOR space where I contract, I know of 5 big players who have/are planning moves of key staff, mainly because there'll be a bigger pool of MScs and PhDs in the EU without any extra paperwork needed.
Since London is the powerhouse of the UK economy this should be cause for concern.

northernladyuk
23rd August 2017, 09:06
The unemployment rates falling combined with no wage increases on average suggest that Britain is creating lots of low-wage, unproductive jobs e.g. Uber drivers.
And those of us well connected in London know that the better-paid jobs and companies are haemorrhaging at a rate that is under-reported in the press, because most companies don't want to publicise Brexit-caused moves.
In the HEOR space where I contract, I know of 5 big players who have/are planning moves of key staff, mainly because there'll be a bigger pool of MScs and PhDs in the EU without any extra paperwork needed.
Since London is the powerhouse of the UK economy this should be cause for concern.

Stop talking the economy down. As our stalwart patriotic friend pointed out earlier in the thread:


Sales of British salmon helped the UK to export a record value of food and drink in the first half of the year, according to industry figures.

Exports of the fish jumped more than 53% by value to £408m, the Food and Drink Federation (FDF) said.

UK food and drink exports rose 8.5% to £10.2bn, helped by the fall in the pound after last year's Brexit vote.

But the FDF warned that without a favourable Brexit trade deal, British exports could become less competitive.

NotAllThere
23rd August 2017, 09:09
How are we supposed to tell if you are angry since you are all of the time?If I'm angry all the time, surely it's a simple judgement call? But you're confusing me with someone who actually gives a damn.

Are posters allowed to put mods on ignore?No, but on the other hand, we can't ignore anyone. No wonder we're always so angry. :wink

sasguru
23rd August 2017, 09:11
If I'm angry all the time, surely it's a simple judgement call?

Logic has never been Brillo's strong point.
He claims to have a maths degree, but judging from his posts, I suspect he's lying.

BrilloPad
23rd August 2017, 09:25
If I'm angry all the time, surely it's a simple judgement call? But you're confusing me with someone who actually gives a damn.
No, but on the other hand, we can't ignore anyone. No wonder we're always so angry. :wink

You should try random bannings more.

Unlucky posters should not be allowed on CUK.

northernladyuk
23rd August 2017, 09:26
Logic has never been Brillo's strong point.
He claims to have a maths degree, but judging from his posts, I suspect he's lying.

Ordinary level, Polytechnic of Life. Specialised in bankruptcy and divorce arithmetic.

darmstadt
23rd August 2017, 09:27
426 days have elapsed and the Bremoaner toys are still strewn across the nursery floor.

:laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh :laugh

15,879 days that Brexiters moaned and moaned and moaned and they still moan more than a whore being stood up by her customer

BrilloPad
23rd August 2017, 10:01
15,879 days that Brexiters moaned and moaned and moaned and they still moan more than a whore being stood up by her customer

How do you make a Hormone?

Refuse to pay her....

rl4engc
23rd August 2017, 10:08
It is a slow process but listeners are beginning to realise what a huge f** up it is.

It's only a f**k up in the minds of the die hard Remoaners. Even most orignal Remoaners are now either neutral or Pro-Brexit.

Let me summarise for you thick Remoaners in the hope you may, at one point in the future, stop whinging and get on with life.

Pre-June 2016 : The Country kept demanding a referendum on the EU. Cameron, having failed miserably to ever get any concessions out of them, announces a referendum.
June 2016 : The result is 52/48 in favour of Leaving the EU. <<<< This is the bit you lot need to concentrate on.
Post-June 2016 : The Brexiters get on with life, job done.
Post-June 2016 : The Country carries on carrying on. No recession, no civil war, no riots, no mass unemployment, no mass exodus of business.
Post-June 2016 : The Remoaners keep moaning...
Post-August 2017 : The Remoaners keep on moaning... FFS

You need to get into your head, if it is or was the huge fook up that you say it is, then the Brexiters, and the people sat on the fence, would now be out on the streets with placards now saying "We want EU back!" "Please forgive us for ever asking to leave!" "You are our masters and we your humble slaves!"

Is the above happening? :rolleyes:

BlasterBates
23rd August 2017, 10:12
It isn't all bad news, the rest of the EU is surging ahead.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-23/euro-area-factories-feed-best-growth-spell-for-economy-in-years

As the Brexit car crash unfolds the stark contrast between the UK and the EU will make people realise what a huge f*** up it was.


:D

rl4engc
23rd August 2017, 10:21
As the Brexit car crash unfolds the stark contrast between the UK and the EU will make people realise what a huge f*** up it was.
:D

To paraphrase all you Remoaners in every post on here:


The UK is Tulip! (Happy Face)

If the UK is that tulip or fooked, why don't you (to quote Malcolm Tucker) "shut the fook up, and fook off whilst doing it?" :grin

WTFH
23rd August 2017, 10:28
To paraphrase all you Remoaners in every post on here:



If the UK is that tulip or fooked, why don't you (to quote Malcolm Tucker) "shut the fook up, and fook off whilst doing it?" :grin

It's OK, you keep being Strong and Stable, watch out for U turns on the road.

We're over a year since the referendum, and so far the government have failed to negotiate anything. The clock is ticking.
Brexiters with their heads buried in the Daily Mail sand think everything is going along perfectly. Everyone else is looking around to see if anything is actually happening.

It's not the EU's fault that the Brexit camp are clueless.
...but you'll still blame the EU for the next 50 years for everything.

As many Brexit voters have said: they would rather see the country fail and their children suffer than stay in the EU.

northernladyuk
23rd August 2017, 10:34
It's only a f**k up in the minds of the die hard Remoaners. Even most orignal Remoaners are now either neutral or Pro-Brexit.

Let me summarise for you thick Remoaners in the hope you may, at one point in the future, stop whinging and get on with life.

Pre-June 2016 : The Country kept demanding a referendum on the EU. Cameron, having failed miserably to ever get any concessions out of them, announces a referendum.
June 2016 : The result is 52/48 in favour of Leaving the EU. <<<< This is the bit you lot need to concentrate on.
Post-June 2016 : The Brexiters get on with life, job done.
Post-June 2016 : The Country carries on carrying on. No recession, no civil war, no riots, no mass unemployment, no mass exodus of business.
Post-June 2016 : The Remoaners keep moaning...
Post-August 2017 : The Remoaners keep on moaning... FFS

You need to get into your head, if it is or was the huge fook up that you say it is, then the Brexiters, and the people sat on the fence, would now be out on the streets with placards now saying "We want EU back!" "Please forgive us for ever asking to leave!" "You are our masters and we your humble slaves!"

Is the above happening? :rolleyes:

That's the spirit! The negotiations are going great and the UK can have its cake and eat it.

northernladyuk
23rd August 2017, 10:43
Even the Daily Mail has stopped pretending Brexit is working out well, judging from its Brexit page:


May insists Britain WILL take back control of its laws as the Government is accused of watering down its pledge to escape EU judges after Brexit

23/08/17 11:32
Theresa May today insisted Britain would take back control of its laws after Brexit after she was accused of watering down her pledge to escape EU judges. The Prime Minister is today unveiling a policy paper outlining Britain's view on how disputes the UK and EU can be resolved in future. It rules out 'direct' jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice (ECJ) and is expected to promote a form of independent tribunal to settle arguments. But any such tribunal could take guidance from the ECJ and Brexiteers will fear rulings will simply be rubber stamped and passed onto British judges anyway....read
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Irish PM goads Theresa May over Brexit as he insists high-tech US-Canada checkpoints are still a 'hard border'
23/08/17 10:25
Irish PM Leo Varadkar (left) made his latest intervention on the thorny issue after visiting the US-Cananda frontier to see an example of border controls between close allies.
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Don't meddle in our courts after Brexit, Euro judges are warned: David Davis declares Britain will 'take back control of its laws' after Britain leaves the EU
23/08/17 01:36
The Brexit Secretary will declare that Britain ‘will take back control of its laws’ as the judges in Luxembourg will no longer have supremacy over the country’s courts.
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Osborne taunts May's ex-advisers by gloating his 'northern powerhouse' idea outlived them at No 10 and urges the PM to build his Manchester-Leeds railway to reboot her premiership
22/08/17 19:39
In his latest intervention despite quitting the Commons to run the Standard, Mr Osborne jibed Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill had failed to kill off his idea to revitalise the north.
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Michel Barnier taunts Britain's latest raft of Brexit policy papers by insisting the EU has been ready since 'day one'
22/08/17 17:50
Brexit Secretary David Davis (left with Michel Barnier) is spending the week before the next round of face to face talks publishing a series of new British negotiation positions.
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European judges WILL still settle cross border cases including divorces even after Brexit, ministers admit
22/08/17 13:42
Justice Secretary David Lidington (pictured) insisted today ministers were simply trying to maximise the opportunities of Brexit while minimising the risks.
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Ditch British goods after Brexit at your peril, UK warns Brussels: David Davis says any disruption to trade would be disastrous to the EU
22/08/17 07:20
David Davis has demanded British goods are not forced off the shelves of Europe following Brexit and warned disruption to trade would be 'disastrous' for the EU.
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Brussels REJECTS David Davis' latest call for linked talks on the Brexit divorce and future trade despite his warning failure to do so threatens the EU's £257BILLION sales to the UK
21/08/17 16:29
Brexit Secretary David Davis said the two sides to the negotiation were 'inextricably linked' as he published the first two of five new policy papers on the talks.
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Britain CAN stay in the single market and still escape the European Court if it joins a different trading block
21/08/17 15:52
Carl Baudenbacher said Britain should sign up to the European Free Trade Association's court, which already arbitrates disputes between the EU and non-members of the EU such as Switzerland.
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Post-Brexit trade deals will boost global security, new chief negotiator for Liam Fox insists
21/08/17 11:24
Britain's new trade negotiator Crawford Falconer (right) said Britain's new trade alliances around the world would help to break up 'destructive' closed markets.
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Stall on Brexit talks and you will lose out, David Davis warns the EU: Brexit Secretary tells Brussels to get on with negotiations or risk weakening its members' economies
21/08/17 01:25
The Brexit Secretary urged the EU to get on with negotiations on a future trade deal or risk weakening their economies by damaging the chances of a smooth transition.
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Tories warn David Davies to avoid trade deals with US amid fears it could be destroyed by Donald Trump crisis
20/08/17 16:49
Tory Ministers have warned Brexit Secretary David Davis that Britain’s hopes of getting a good US trade deal could be wrecked by the growing crisis surrounding Donald Trump.
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Britain could strike a post Brexit free trade deal without getting the approval of Scottish and Welsh governments, says Liam Fox
19/08/17 15:21
The proposals were circulated among Cabinet ministers by International Trade Secretary Liam Fox (pictured) who set out four options for devolved governments' role in the negotiations.
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Commonwealth countries demand equal immigration rights with EU citizens after Brexit
18/08/17 19:49
The message has been underlined by Canberra's foreign minister, Julie Bishop, who said her country would be disappointed if there was not equal treatment.
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Fears Eurocrats could delay Brexit trade talks until CHRISTMAS as William Hague compares negotiations to handling a GUN
17/08/17 22:15
The EU is insisting that it will not discuss future arrangements until after 'sufficient progress' has been made on the divorce bill and terms.
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EU migrants WON'T need visas to come to the UK after Brexit as part of plans to keep 'soft' Irish border - but must have a permit in order to work
17/08/17 16:29
Government plans state that EU nationals will be free to enter via the Irish border without extra checks - but the blueprint also implies that visas will not be required at other ports.
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Cuts on household spending reach a two-year high as consumer confidence plummets post-Brexit
17/08/17 11:07
More than half of Britons admitted to resorting to cost-cutting measures when it came to groceries and energy bills in the second quarter of 2017.
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No checks on people or goods crossing border between Northern Ireland and the Republic after Brexit, vows May despite fears over potential immigration loophole
17/08/17 09:04
A government 'position paper' rejects the idea of CCTV cameras or number plate recognition systems - instead saying that the current 'frictionless' arrangements should effectively stay in place.
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Cost of Britain's next-generation F-35 warplanes balloons by £80million in a year thanks to plummeting value of the pound since Brexit vote
17/08/17 08:45
The UK is buying 138 of the planes and their US manufacturer, Lockheed Martin, claimed the aircraft will cost between £77million and £100million each.
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Brexit secretary David Davis works a three-day week (and can't make a ham sandwich) says former aide as he takes aim at his old boss in 250-Tweet tirade
16/08/17 12:11
David Davis was accused of being workshy and a bully in an extraordinary Twitter rant by his former Chief of Staff. The Brexit Secretary, 68, was besieged by former aide James Chapman, 40.
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Theresa May flies back to Brexit chaos: PM ends her holiday as David Davis clashes with top Eurocrats on customs rules and threatens to add VAT to EU goods if Brussels blocks trade deal
15/08/17 21:25
Theresa May has returned to Downing Street after a three-week holiday on the day the Brexit Secretary said securing an interim customs arrangement would be 'in both sides' interest'.
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Fresh Labour Brexit shambles as shadow minister insists Britain COULD stay in EU customs union despite colleague saying the idea is a 'disaster'
15/08/17 16:22
Bill Esterson, shadow trade minister, said staying in the customs union would be up for negotiation in talks with Brussels.
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House prices are up £10k since the Brexit vote with the East of England seeing the biggest gains, official data shows
15/08/17 11:04
Property prices increased 4.9 per cent in the year to June to reach £223,000 - £10,000 higher than the same month last year and £2,000 higher than May, according to the Office for National Statistics.
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EU could block UK trade deals for three years after Brexit: Government's plans for smooth transition may let Eurocrats delay new global deals during 'interim period'
15/08/17 10:44
David Davis will argue that such a deal, where the UK mimics the EU's tariffs and rules on customs, would give more time for a smooth switch and would benefit both sides of the Channel.
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SIMON WATKINS: 'The promise that Brexit would be good for the economy has proved false'
15/08/17 08:15
Week after week the statistics and the day-to-day experience of ordinary people are demonstrating that the promise that Brexit would be good for the economy, has proved false.

BlasterBates
23rd August 2017, 11:01
To paraphrase all you Remoaners in every post on here:



If the UK is that tulip or fooked, why don't you (to quote Malcolm Tucker) "shut the fook up, and fook off whilst doing it?" :grin

I'm not saying I'm against Brexit, I've done very well out of it and I will continue to do so, but that is because I don't live in the UK.

:D

original PM
23rd August 2017, 11:06
How do you make a Hormone?

Refuse to pay her....

I thought the correct answer was to put sand in the vaseline?

BrilloPad
23rd August 2017, 11:32
Pre-June 2016 : The Country kept demanding a referendum on the EU. Cameron, having failed miserably to ever get any concessions out of them, announces a referendum.


DC never cared about the country. He just want to shut up some back bench Tory MPs. He was 100% confident he could win.

My biggest regret is that he seems alot happier now he has gone. I would like him tried for some crimes. I have yet to decide what....


I thought the correct answer was to put sand in the vaseline?

Pre 1999(Euro), I went with a German Brass. She asked for Marks afterward. I gave her 8/10.


:tumble:

NotAllThere
23rd August 2017, 11:40
Even most orignal Remoaners are now either neutral or Pro-Brexit.
Thanks. I needed a good belly laugh.

Post-August 2017 - Brexiters continue to be so easily wound up by remainers. Poor little snowflakes.


DC never cared about the country. He just want to shut up some back bench Tory MPs. He was 100% confident he could win.Precisely. Most of the Brexit politicians couldn't care less about the country - just interested in increasing their own power. Mind you, that applies to most remainer MPs.

My biggest regret is that he seems alot happier now he has gone. I would like him tried for some crimes. I have yet to decide what....Come on, there must be a war he got the UK involved with.

BrilloPad
23rd August 2017, 11:52
Precisely. Most of the Brexit politicians couldn't care less about the country - just interested in increasing their own power. Mind you, that applies to most remainer MPs.


The UK people deserve it as they only vote for 2 parties. People need to vote for anything other than the main 2. Interesting some people wanted JRM - unbelievable.



Come on, there must be a war he got the UK involved with.


He could have invaded Poland and sent millions to the gas chamber. No politician will see him indicted. As the same might happen to them.....

sasguru
23rd August 2017, 12:38
Post-August 2017 - Brexiters continue to be so easily wound up by remainers. Poor little snowflakes.
.

It's because deep down they know they've fooked the country up. Hence the hysteria.

sasguru
23rd August 2017, 12:39
It's only a f**k up in the minds of the die hard Remoaners. Even most orignal Remoaners are now either neutral or Pro-Brexit.

Let me summarise for you thick Remoaners in the hope you may, at one point in the future, stop whinging and get on with life.

Pre-June 2016 : The Country kept demanding a referendum on the EU. Cameron, having failed miserably to ever get any concessions out of them, announces a referendum.
June 2016 : The result is 52/48 in favour of Leaving the EU. <<<< This is the bit you lot need to concentrate on.
Post-June 2016 : The Brexiters get on with life, job done.
Post-June 2016 : The Country carries on carrying on. No recession, no civil war, no riots, no mass unemployment, no mass exodus of business.
Post-June 2016 : The Remoaners keep moaning...
Post-August 2017 : The Remoaners keep on moaning... FFS

You need to get into your head, if it is or was the huge fook up that you say it is, then the Brexiters, and the people sat on the fence, would now be out on the streets with placards now saying "We want EU back!" "Please forgive us for ever asking to leave!" "You are our masters and we your humble slaves!"

Is the above happening? :rolleyes:

Have we left the EU yet? Anyone got a plan for that? Anyone? Anyone? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

contractorinatractor
23rd August 2017, 14:04
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/aug/22/uk-public-finances-budget-first-july-surplus-since-2002
Salmon sales surge as UK food exports hit record high - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40963631)
UK exports to the EU surge on weaker pound* (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/08/17/uk-exports-eu-surge-weaker-pound/)
UK unemployment falls to new 42-year low - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40947087)

The bad news just keeps coming....


Unemployment measurement methodology has changed. Governments over the past forty years have changed these, so the true unemployed increasingly leave in scope to out of scope.

If the goods rely upon commodities to produce, then you do understand that more exports aren't necessarily a good thing, right? The value of our currency has decreased, so in order to stand still, we have to export more and more. In ye olde world, when manufacture and services were unique to a local country market, this worked just fine most of the time. Now? We're internationalised.Do you see that entirely changing? No, me neither.

If you genuinely believe exports increasing due to currency fluctuations - in this way - are good for the UK long term, you are a moron, and encompass exactly the stereotype the city has of brexiteers. "Increase in exports? Woopey doo! I was right after all!"

Conversely, did you feel the punch with exports decreased? No, I didn't think so; because numerous myriad factors are involved in an economy, not simply exports. Honestly, it does worry me that in a supposed meritocracy we have morons hired at £750/day who can't even assimilate basic economic theory or recognise their own biased. Sigh.

contractorinatractor
23rd August 2017, 14:12
June 2016 : The result is 52/48 in favour of Leaving the EU. <<<< This is the bit you lot need to concentrate on.


I think a lot of people were disgusted by the large volume of right wing and, also other misinformed, media promoting a brexit based on primal fears of foreigners, asylum seekers, immigrants, with some ridiculous notion of passion towards their country. That's how you got your ball over the line. Those who suggest that the constant negative stories of the EU had no effect in such media are delusional.

We all like the UK to some degree, that's why we stay here. How do you feel about the fact it is currently ok to run a campaign in your country, using such images, which WILL have influenced plenty of voters, to get a result you wanted? I find it bizarre.

Most decent and intellectual people would suggest that it is morally wrong and should never have happened. Without such stoking of false fears, it would likely have been around 30% to 35% of the votes for BREXIT. You can't believe the feeling you 'won' (you're losing; you'll see) and don't seem to mind the journey to this 'win'.

It's pathetic really. I find it surreal that the main arguments were not really discussed on the mainstream media channels, even the BBC let us all down on this one. Instead they discussed the interesting racist minority of the country and their interests, rather than the options available, possible plans; that is to say: what you are really voting for.

The only saving grace is that the majority of politicians are trying to do their best to keep links with the EU.

rl4engc
23rd August 2017, 14:49
the main arguments were not really discussed on the mainstream media channels, even the BBC let us all down on this one.

Which is why I didn't let the mainstream media channels influence my vote. I did my own research and the more I dug, the less I liked the EU and where it was heading. It's incapable of reform too.


The only saving grace is that the majority of politicians are trying to do their best to keep links with the EU.

Why of course. Keeping links with Europe and the EU doesn't mean having to be a part of it. What pisses me off is when people say things like "The UK is nothing without the EU." Utter tulipe.

northernladyuk
23rd August 2017, 15:03
Which is why I didn't let the mainstream media channels influence my vote. I did my own research and the more I dug, the less I liked the EU and where it was heading. It's incapable of reform too.



Why of course. Keeping links with Europe and the EU doesn't mean having to be a part of it. What pisses me off is when people say things like "The UK is nothing without the EU." Utter tulipe.

Which people have said things like that?

WTFH
23rd August 2017, 15:57
Which people have said things like that?

The Daily Mail/Express falsely claim that anyone who voted remain says that all the time. It's their way of trying to be as divisive as possible.

shaunbhoy
23rd August 2017, 16:26
The Daily Mail/Express.

You really ought to widen your range of reading material.

HTH

:laugh

Addanc
23rd August 2017, 17:50
When are you remoaners going to make a single argument backed-up by real world facts/data for staying in the EU. FUD and proclamation don't cut it.
:igmc:

scooterscot
23rd August 2017, 17:51
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/aug/22/uk-public-finances-budget-first-july-surplus-since-2002
Salmon sales surge as UK food exports hit record high - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40963631)
UK exports to the EU surge on weaker pound* (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/08/17/uk-exports-eu-surge-weaker-pound/)
UK unemployment falls to new 42-year low - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40947087)

The bad news just keeps coming....

So in fact not UK sales, but Scottish sales. typically Scots propping up a failing economy.

darmstadt
23rd August 2017, 18:16
When are we leavers going to make a single argument backed-up by real world facts/data for leaving the EU. FUD and proclamation don't cut it.
:igmc:

FTFY

northernladyuk
23rd August 2017, 18:44
When are you remoaners going to make a single argument backed-up by real world facts/data for staying in the EU. FUD and proclamation don't cut it.
:igmc:

UK residents can work anywhere in the EEA.

JozefBlofeld
23rd August 2017, 19:11
When are you remoaners going to make a single argument backed-up by real world facts/data for staying in the EU. FUD and proclamation don't cut it.
:igmc:

Britain currently has the best possible deal with the EU. Any new deal will be inferior.

northernladyuk
23rd August 2017, 19:24
When are you remoaners going to make a single argument backed-up by real world facts/data for staying in the EU. FUD and proclamation don't cut it.
:igmc:

UK financial services companies can sell services freely across the EEA.

BrilloPad
23rd August 2017, 19:39
Britain currently has the best possible deal with the EU. Any new deal will be inferior.

The EU will not accept any deal that is better for them. The only criteria will be to penalise the UK.

Hence I expect hard Brexit.

BrilloPad
23rd August 2017, 19:40
You really ought to widen your range of reading material.

HTH

:laugh

He only just got beyond the beano.