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tarbera
11th December 2017, 10:23
just 50,000 passengers effected this time

SueEllen
11th December 2017, 10:53
UK airports don't have spare runways they can use in times like this. This is unlike Finland etc who have snow all the time.

This means even if UK airports have their snow ploughs, deicing equipment etc ready, flights will still be cancelled as they can't prep another runway to use when they know the forecast and swap when that's full of snow.

BrilloPad
11th December 2017, 10:55
This is drastic! MF has already been caught pretending to fly from there first class today.

There is only one leader who can help. Suity, you time has come.

SueEllen
11th December 2017, 11:06
I was also about to add the time between flights taking off and landing at Gatwick and Heathrow is very tight.

Air traffic control have ensured it is the minimum they can get away with, and it sometimes relies on observant pilots to stop near misses.

Scruff
11th December 2017, 11:07
Heathrow and Gatwick don't have heated runways, like they do in the rest of Northern Europe...

eek
11th December 2017, 11:15
london you say, both my flights worked only issue was I didn’t have time to hit the lounge but that was more due to the gate the second plane left from anything else

Pondlife
11th December 2017, 11:22
KLM cancelled both my flights today.

WTFH
11th December 2017, 11:22
There's no resilience in the system - all runways are run to full capacity, landing times are as tight as they can be, etc. Any additional runways that might be built in the south east will not solve the problem, as they will also just be used to capacity.
This is due to the airports being run by businesses who need to report maximum profits and who know that when things grind to a halt it's the airlines that have to compensate passengers, not the airports.

http://newairportinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/ACIEUROPEReportTheOwnershipofEuropesAirports2016.p df

Lance
11th December 2017, 11:36
There's no resilience in the system - all runways are run to full capacity, landing times are as tight as they can be, etc. Any additional runways that might be built in the south east will not solve the problem, as they will also just be used to capacity.
This is due to the airports being run by businesses who need to report maximum profits and who know that when things grind to a halt it's the airlines that have to compensate passengers, not the airports.

http://newairportinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/ACIEUROPEReportTheOwnershipofEuropesAirports2016.p df

One presumes that airports have to compensate airlines to some degree if they can't fly. There must be some service levels.
Given that EU rules allow up to 600EUR per passenger for cancelled flights and decent lumps of money for delays I will therefore infer that the airlines would rather pay the passengers than pay the airport more for better service. Or do the airlines insure against that loss?

DimPrawn
11th December 2017, 11:40
There will be very few delayed flights into the UK after Korbyn gets in.

WTFH
11th December 2017, 11:41
One presumes that airports have to compensate airlines to some degree if they can't fly. There must be some service levels.

"Weather" would come under "act of god" - the airport would claim it cannot control the weather and so would not have to compensate, at a guess.

Lance
11th December 2017, 11:45
"Weather" would come under "act of god" - the airport would claim it cannot control the weather and so would not have to compensate, at a guess.

not much of a market then. Maybe this is why USA does flying better. I'm sure if an airport over there did that the airline would just use another one.

BrilloPad
11th December 2017, 12:42
"Weather" would come under "act of god" - the airport would claim it cannot control the weather and so would not have to compensate, at a guess.

Correct.

Feb 2015 I got stuck abroad after bird strike. This year EU ruled that bird strike is an act of god. So no compensation.

Not that I wanted compensation. I just wanted them to send a rescue flight instead of leaving us stranded for days.....

WTFH
11th December 2017, 13:24
Feb 2015 I got stuck abroad after bird strike.

Yes, ever since Corbyn has been running the country the birds have had their own union.

MrMarkyMark
11th December 2017, 13:33
There will be very few delayed flights into the UK after Korbyn gets in.

It could change aviation from what we currently know of it. :eyes

http://www.dictatorshipoftheair.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/ruswar.jpg

NotAllThere
11th December 2017, 14:36
Snowmageddon declared as 5 snowflakes close Terminal 5Students protesting again?

NotAllThere
11th December 2017, 14:39
...Air traffic control have ensured it is the minimum they can get away withThat's right. They feel that if the pressure on them isn't high enough, it just isn't fun. Or this a more reasonable explanation?


This is due to the airports being run by businesses who need to report maximum profits and who know that when things grind to a halt it's the airlines that have to compensate passengers, not the airports.

greenlake
11th December 2017, 16:46
Feb 2015 I got stuck abroad after bird strike.

But you weren't even at the airport yet....

http://i.imgur.com/v5qRgiZ.gif

BR14
11th December 2017, 17:31
But you weren't even at the airport yet....

http://i.imgur.com/v5qRgiZ.gif

:rollin: :rollin: :rollin: :rollin: :rollin:

vetran
11th December 2017, 18:43
Correct.

Feb 2015 I got stuck abroad after bird strike. This year EU ruled that bird strike is an act of god. So no compensation.

Not that I wanted compensation. I just wanted them to send a rescue flight instead of leaving us stranded for days.....

cost us a fortune to arrange that for a few days of peace & quiet but your exes put quite a few quid in!