Indian doctors.

[Euro-commuter]

Wife's treatment in India better than Glasgow says the Telegraph.

A row broke out last night over the state of Britain's hospitals after a retired consultant complained that his wife received far better treatment in India.

Opposition parties accused Labour of running down the NHS and failing to put patients first.

The dispute was sparked by the contrasting experience of Mark Ziervogel, 70, and his wife Toni, 66, in hospitals in India and Glasgow.

She received specialist treatment in two medical centres in India after suffering a serious head injury when she fell off a bicycle in Rajasthan in February.

Her husband, a former consultant radiologist, said the hospital in Ajmer, where she was seen by a neurosurgeon and given CT scans that revealed bruising to the brain, was "superb".

He praised its cleanliness, the efficiency of the staff and the high standard of equipment.

After five days in intensive care she was transferred to the Max Super Hospital in Delhi and on March 6 she had recovered enough to be taken home to Scotland. She was accompanied on the flight by an Indian doctor and nurse, and Mr Ziervogel said he "blushed" with embarrassment when the doctor walked into the "filthy" Western Infirmary in Glasgow.

[andy]

you get what you pay for
since millions of scoungers are not paying, what do you expect

[Rantor]

Wife's treatment in India better than Glasgow says the Telegraph.

Unsurprising, my father was in Gartnavel in Glasgow with, what turned out ot be, terminal cancer a few years ago and it was completely decrepit and filthy - it had a sort of moldovan feeling about it.

No oncologists, no appointment offered till three weeks after he died.

I think most countries have political untouchables and ours is the NHS with all political parties just offering tinkering at the edges. Lots of other european countries have well funded, efficient, health services providing the freedom to choose your treatment. They have differnet ways of funding/structuring this but the one thing they have in common is that they don't have a big soviet style, monolithic entity like the nhs.

Its not even as if it has been starved of funds lately but pouring billions in seems to offer only marginal improvements.

I don't know how it could be restructured either as both parties have such a childlike attitude to 'the market' and 'service providers' that it would end up a complete debacle.

I really, really hate the attitde of british healthcare staff as well but I can feel the rant starting to well up and that is a bad thing.....

[ChimpMaster]

You guys really make me hate this country.

[wendigo100]

you get what you pay for

Not in the case of the NHS you don't!

[Kyajae]

Not in the case of the NHS you don't!

N.H.S - No.Hope.Sunshine!

[Buffoon]

I think most countries have political untouchables and ours is the NHS with all political parties just offering tinkering at the edges.

The yanks have a phrase for it : "the third rail".

[rootsnall]

I have just spent a fair bit of time in an NHS hospital visiting a sick relative and I found it to be well staffed, very clean and all in all I would think pretty good value compared to us all having private insurance. It was in a lot better state than 10 years ago when I last spent time there and the toerags were running the NHS into the ground. Tony & Co have cocked most things up but keeping the NHS up and running wasn't one of them.

[_V_]

I too am visiting a sick relative and hospital is less than 5 years old, clean, staff are good and the care is (generally) very good.

This was one of those PFI deals. However the staff told me the cost was astronomical, hence not enough staff and whole wards empty whilst others are turning away patients to keep costs down. The NHS Trust are paying millions for the hospital with no way out of the spiralling costs. A complete money pit. Equipment not used as too expensive to run and staff.

[Barriebazg]

I have just spent a fair bit of time in an NHS hospital visiting a sick relative and I found it to be well staffed, very clean and all in all I would think pretty good value compared to us all having private insurance. It was in a lot better state than 10 years ago when I last spent time there and the toerags were running the NHS into the ground. Tony & Co have cocked most things up but keeping the NHS up and running wasn't one of them.

I can't agree with you there. about 12 weeks ago I was in an NHS hopsital with severe kidney pains (turns out I had kidney failure). Anyways the first time I was in I was in A&E for 16hrs, 12 of those on a trolley in the corridor, 3 of them kicked off the bed and had to sit on a crappy plastic chair in the corridor and the last hr back on the bed, to be told that since I had no pain anymore (I was doped up on morphine) that I was being discharged. 2 days later back in as I was just in constant pain. I then spent a further 18hrs in A&E, all the time with no fluid, thus accelarating the kidney failure progress. Finally admitted to a ward and moved to 3 different wards due to bed shortages. It turns out, that the first time I was in, if I was probably looked after it could have been knocked on the head if they had the proper facilities (drinking water widely available, bed on a ward so I was looked after and monitored properly). Over the last 3-4yrs this has been a huge problem within the NHS and addressed numerous times and still nothing sorted.


So I dont agree with you at all sorry.