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MarillionFan
17th October 2011, 19:01
Yesterday in pedant mode I corrected Mrs MF when she went to give me a number.

'O' one, two, she started. It threw me for a second.

It's not an 'O' it's a zero I offered up in best CUK pedant mode. You do it then she said.

Rightio.

zero seven nine etc etc I said smugly.

What's your parents number then?

Well that's 'O' one eight....

FFS!!!! :tantrum:

It seems that certain combination of numbers, 07, 01 solicit a different verbal reaction.Is there an etiquette here????

These things keep me up at night.

TestMangler
17th October 2011, 19:03
These things keep me up at night.

Well, if it keeps you up and it's cheaper than all that viagra you normally buy, then why worry too much ? :tongue

Bunk
17th October 2011, 19:04
Annoyingly I've found myself starting phone numbers with O and then switching to "zero" for the rest of the number :tantrum:

MarillionFan
17th October 2011, 19:05
Well, if it keeps you up and it's cheaper than all that viagra you normally buy, then why worry too much ? :tongue

It stops me from rolling out of bed at night.

TestMangler
17th October 2011, 19:06
It stops me from rolling out of bed at night.

Yeah but you have to watch you don't knock the hallway ornaments over when you go for a piss during the night, eh ? :ohwell

MarillionFan
17th October 2011, 19:12
Yeah but you have to watch you don't knock the hallway ornaments over when you go for a piss during the night, eh ? :ohwell

'I have to be careful I don't know over next doors hallway ornaments when I go for a piss'

- Sasguru - Big Swinger.:laugh

Paddy
17th October 2011, 19:18
Yesterday in pedant mode I corrected Mrs MF when she went to give me a number.

'O' one, two, she started. It threw me for a second.

It's not an 'O' it's a zero I offered up in best CUK pedant mode. You do it then she said.

Rightio.

zero seven nine etc etc I said smugly.

What's your parents number then?

Well that's 'O' one eight....

FFS!!!! :tantrum:

It seems that certain combination of numbers, 07, 01 solicit a different verbal reaction.Is there an etiquette here????

These things keep me up at night.

Both work the same :rolleyes:


http://www.oldatheart.co.uk/old-phone-4.jpg

TimberWolf
17th October 2011, 21:12
To enable much quickness, the numbers 0 to 9 should just have one syllable. That's just 7 to crack once O is allowed.

TimberWolf
17th October 2011, 21:17
But on the other hand there are standards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_phonetic_alphabet) to maintain:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/FAA_Phonetic_and_Morse_Chart2.svg/350px-FAA_Phonetic_and_Morse_Chart2.svg.png

I aint saying fow-er, one syllable does me.

MarillionFan
17th October 2011, 21:45
To enable much quickness, the numbers 0 to 9 should just have one syllable. That's just 7 to crack once O is allowed.

Interesting. And very correct.

Maybe it's the mentally the brain/linguistically we cannot stand odd sound syllables. Zero seven my example is 4 syllables. The rest 2. Does that expand to the rest of a number. Will humans automatically use a combination of o's and zeros to make an even pattern?

wim121
17th October 2011, 22:38
Yesterday in pedant mode I corrected Mrs MF when she went to give me a number.

'O' one, two, she started. It threw me for a second.

It's not an 'O' it's a zero I offered up in best CUK pedant mode. You do it then she said.
You werent being pedantic at all.

Now I wouldnt say living with you must be a barrell of laughs form what Ive seen :tongue but you are 100% justified in telling her to speak properly or go and live in another country or a trashy part of the UK.







But on the other hand there are standards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_phonetic_alphabet) to maintain:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e0/FAA_Phonetic_and_Morse_Chart2.svg/350px-FAA_Phonetic_and_Morse_Chart2.svg.png

I aint saying fow-er, one syllable does me.
Hehehe, I quite often get comments from people on the phone, especially when renewing inusrance like I am now, from agents thanking me on saying letters phonetically. Makes it so much simpler and they're job easier. I cant understand why those with a thicker accent (most other people than I) never do this and make a five minute conversation last half an hour.





In short all, if you cant speak English to an acceptable standard, that is one where others can understand what you mean, you should be packed on to a burning barge and cast away from the UK.

Ughhh, if only we had done that decades ago before the chavs got too large in their numbers.

Bagpuss
17th October 2011, 22:52
You werent being pedantic at all.

Now I wouldnt say living with you must be a barrell of laughs form what Ive seen :tongue but you are 100% justified in telling her to speak properly or go and live in another country or a trashy part of the UK.








Hehehe, I quite often get comments from people on the phone, especially when renewing inusrance like I am now, from agents thanking me on saying letters phonetically. Makes it so much simpler and they're job easier. I cant understand why those with a thicker accent (most other people than I) never do this and make a five minute conversation last half an hour.



In short all, if you cant speak English to an acceptable standard, that is one where others can understand what you mean, you should be packed on to a burning barge and cast away from the UK.

Ughhh, if only we had done that decades ago before the chavs got too large in their numbers.

What if you can't write in English? Where shall we pack you?

wim121
17th October 2011, 23:07
What if you can't write in English? Where shall we pack you?


Typo, not a spelling issue. Is that permissible on an informal forum?

I wouldn’t find it acceptable in business, or a plethora of typos even in the informal usage.

No-one will ever speak and type 100% perfectly in all situations at all times. However there is a vast difference between someone speaking in a clear southern voice and a Geordie that sounds like a brain damaged chimp. The latter option, needs to be on the theoretical barge.

Bagpuss
17th October 2011, 23:10
Back to the OP. You must be familiar with 0898 numbers? The 0 is pronounced 'O'. Saying zero is more than likely American in origin.

0898 number noun - definition in British English Dictionary & Thesaurus - Cambridge Dictionary Online (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/0898-number)

wim121
17th October 2011, 23:17
Back to the OP. You must be familiar with 0898 numbers? The 0 is pronounced 'O'. Saying zero is more than likely American in origin.

0898 number noun - definition in British English Dictionary & Thesaurus - Cambridge Dictionary Online (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/0898-number)

Isnt that just marketing as many companies know the majority of the population are morons and dont understand what zero is?

Just like in that documentary, educating essex, where that dumb girl thought Pi was in fact Pie ....

Bagpuss
17th October 2011, 23:18
Typo, not a spelling issue. Is that permissible on an informal forum?

I wouldn’t find it acceptable in business, or a plethora of typos even in the informal usage.

No-one will ever speak and type 100% perfectly in all situations at all times. However there is a vast difference between someone speaking in a clear southern voice and a Geordie that sounds like a brain damaged chimp. The latter option, needs to be on the theoretical barge.

It just goes to show being a condescending smart arse on an internet forum seldom works.

P.S. What is a clear southern voice?
Nasal Essex? Guttural East London? Chavy north west London? Or are you confusing southern with RP which doesn't really belong to any part of the country?

Bagpuss
17th October 2011, 23:25
Isnt that just marketing as many companies know the majority of the population are morons and dont understand what zero is?

Just like in that documentary, educating essex, where that dumb girl thought Pi was in fact Pie ....

The name's Bond, James Bond, DOUBLE ZERO seven. Nah, it's just not right old chap.

Support Monkey
18th October 2011, 07:32
I never realy thought about it until you put the thought in my head, when anyone asks me for my mobile number i always say

'0'79**66'Zero'***

when clearly it should start with Zero, i will test it out at the first oppurtunity to see if i can start with 'Zero'

It just rolls of the tongue easier, "try it"

Wodewick
18th October 2011, 07:35
On a scale of O to Ten WGAS?

Spacecadet
18th October 2011, 08:29
Given that (almost) every phone number starts with a zero, the linguistic shortcut of "O" instead of "Zero" is perfectly natural.
Further in the telephone number structure the numbers are more important and an "O" might get lost in the noise, hence the automatic switch from "O" to "Zero"

d000hg
18th October 2011, 08:34
I think nought is what you should be using. Good luck with your phone calls.

ThomasSoerensen
18th October 2011, 09:07
its easy

O is a letter and 0 is a number.

It should not be too hard to determine on a case by case basis if you are referring to a letter or a number.