Both partners are contractors.

**cojak** · 5 November 2012, 15:44

Keep the Limited companies separate.

(Could add sooo much more but very aware that this is a Professional forum

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**northernladuk** · 5 November 2012, 15:58

I am intrigued to know why a change in your personal circumstances automatically means their has to be a change in your business ones? They are not connected so why change them just because you are getting married?

The savings on accountants and the shared stuff is negligble against the problems of different incomes and distribution if people are on the bench and stuff.

Leave your business situation as it is and let the soon to be missus spend all your personal money as she sees fit

**bobbyeightball** · 5 November 2012, 16:07

You're correct that there is no connection, but I'm wondering if the JointCo would look better as it would have more than one employee, be offering more than one professional service and have more than one concurrent client?

Also it's 2012 and we're on similar rates so it's us spending our money rather than my missus getting a free ride

**captainham** · 5 November 2012, 16:32

Originally posted by bobbyeightball View Post

You're correct that there is no connection, but I'm wondering if the JointCo would look better as it would have more than one employee, be offering more than one professional service and have more than one concurrent client?

Also it's 2012 and we're on similar rates so it's us spending our money rather than my missus getting a free ride

Sounds like you're referring to IR35. Is your wife-to-be in the same line of work, i.e. could she genuinely substitute you? If not then I'd forget it, as IR35 is assessed on a contract basis, not on how your LtdCo is set up.

And to be honest, even if she could sub you, I'll still leave the two Co's separate. She can sub via her own Co and invoicing yours, if that situation ever arose.

**bobbyeightball** · 5 November 2012, 16:41

Thanks for the info guys.

We're both project based so sit outside IR35

To be honest, I'm surprised that the consensus appears to be to keep everything seperate. It's certainly the prefered route for us, but just wanted to see if there was anything we hadn't thought of

Anyone know of what happens if one of us gets to meet the big guy upstairs while there's still money in the business? Do the shares automatically go to the next of kin of the sole share holder or does there need to be something in place?

**BlasterBates** · 5 November 2012, 16:47

I think you may move yourself off the radar. The fact is there are thousands and thousands of small co's so there is no way that HMRC are going examine everyone in detail, obviously they need some filtering criteria. No-one knows what that is, but obviously it will be designed to throw up one man co's, because that's where most "avoiders" are, so anything that will change the "shape" of the company's profile might just move you out of the search list.

**northernladuk** · 5 November 2012, 17:18

Originally posted by bobbyeightball View Post

Thanks for the info guys.

We're both project based so sit outside IR35

That is a rather worrying sweeping statement. Permies can work on projects as well. Working on a project is not a get out. You can still be treated like a permie working on a project so be inside IR35. Maybe you have done all the homework and really are happy with your situation but that statement isn't the one that shows you are outside. Warning bells should be ringing.

To be honest, I'm surprised that the consensus appears to be to keep everything seperate. It's certainly the prefered route for us, but just wanted to see if there was anything we hadn't thought of

I really don't understand why. Your business and personal lives are completely separate things. You don't assume you are going to get married when you merge a business so why the other way around? I hate to mention it first but divorce rates went up 4.9% in 2010 to 119,589. It happens.

Anyone know of what happens if one of us gets to meet the big guy upstairs while there's still money in the business? Do the shares automatically go to the next of kin of the sole share holder or does there need to be something in place?

Oddly enough someone mentioned this the other day. It appears it is quite straightforward.

http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...lls-death.html

**lithium147** · 5 November 2012, 19:05

If you combine your company's, you will likely be forced out of the FRS due to the £230K limit.
Why not for an LLP instead?

**Jessica@WhiteFieldTax** · 5 November 2012, 19:34

It tends to be a matter of personal preference; we've had clients in this scenario before, some have shared a company, some have kept their own cos.

The vat FRS issue above is a valid one.

One company would simplify things a little and save costs, but would get a little more complex if you split up or one of you dies prematurely.

Re death, yes, shares transfer to next of kin, and it's probably not the biggest problem a bereaved person will face, sorting out deceaseds company.

HTH

Both partners are contractors.