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psychocandy
25th July 2013, 17:40
Not quite so easy if you want to stay in hotel.

I could, of course, check in hotel on night 1, go into client at 8pm, get back to hotel and sleep all day.
Back in office night 2 8pm till 8am, back to hotel, 4 hours kip till checkout at 12pm. Drive home.

Or I could be tight and go straight to client 8pm night 1. Leave 8am, kip in car till 12pm. Check into hotel then, do same as above. Thus being tightarse and saving one nights hotel stay. Seems a bit of a waste paying for 4 hours kip.....

Of course, trouble with this plan is no matter whether you put do not disturb on the door you can guarantee the cleaning lady will come barging in while you're sleeping in the middle of the day.

AtW
25th July 2013, 17:42
Of course, trouble with this plan is no matter whether you put do not disturb on the door you can guarantee the cleaning lady will come barging in while you're sleeping in the middle of the day.

If that wakes you up then you did not work hard enough during your night shift...

:eyes

Spacecadet
25th July 2013, 17:43
you can guarantee the cleaning lady will come barging in while you're sleeping in the middle of the day.

Have a chat with Kent Philip, he can tell you what to do in those situations

TheFaQQer
25th July 2013, 18:06
Or you could negotiate that when you are on nights, they pay for your accommodation, since it's outside the routine.

You'll have discussed and sorted that out at the interview, though, I'm sure.

eek
25th July 2013, 18:11
Or you could negotiate that when you are on nights, they pay for your accommodation, since it's outside the routine.

You'll have discussed and sorted that out at the interview, though, I'm sure.

Looks at op and realises the answer. Surely this also makes you IR35 foddy as you move from a professional day to working night shift because the client asked you to do it.

psychocandy
25th July 2013, 18:15
Looks at op and realises the answer. Surely this also makes you IR35 foddy as you move from a professional day to working night shift because the client asked you to do it.

Perfectly aware of this BUT its a short contract (7 weeks). The risks are still there of course.

In terms of PWD, of course, I ain't working 12 hours night shift for same rate. Client has kindly offered a very generous uplift. 1.5 for 12 hours plus 1.25 for nights, 1.5 for sunday etc. In fact, a sunday night works out nicely indeed.

Old Greg
25th July 2013, 18:35
Or you could negotiate that when you are on nights, they pay for your accommodation, since it's outside the routine.

You'll have discussed and sorted that out at the interview, though, I'm sure.

It's in his contract directly below the late cancellation charge clause.

psychocandy
25th July 2013, 18:35
If that wakes you up then you did not work hard enough during your night shift...

:eyes

Work? :-)

AtW
25th July 2013, 18:42
Perfectly aware of this BUT its a short contract (7 weeks). The risks are still there of course.

In terms of PWD, of course, I ain't working 12 hours night shift for same rate. Client has kindly offered a very generous uplift. 1.5 for 12 hours plus 1.25 for nights, 1.5 for sunday etc. In fact, a sunday night works out nicely indeed.

How much for 12 hours night time shift on Sunday?

Old Greg
25th July 2013, 18:45
How much for 12 hours night time shift on Sunday?

3s 4d.

TheFaQQer
25th July 2013, 18:46
Perfectly aware of this BUT its a short contract (7 weeks). The risks are still there of course.

In terms of PWD, of course, I ain't working 12 hours night shift for same rate. Client has kindly offered a very generous uplift. 1.5 for 12 hours plus 1.25 for nights, 1.5 for sunday etc. In fact, a sunday night works out nicely indeed.

Isn't overtime something that permies get?

psychocandy
25th July 2013, 20:40
Isn't overtime something that permies get?

Maybe or it could be considered an agreed rate in the contract of course.

psychocandy
25th July 2013, 20:41
How much for 12 hours night time shift on Sunday?

Well, by my reckoning its 1.5x1.5x1.25 daily rate.....

2.8125 x daily rate. Yes please.

northernladuk
25th July 2013, 20:50
Maybe or it could be considered an agreed rate in the contract of course.

But it should be agreed at a set figure not 1.5x. You charge an amount per day so agree that amount. Permies do multiples.