Airbus Out, Boeing In

[meridian]

Airbus Out, Boeing In

Inneresting.

How do China and the USA overcome this limitation?

They have their own safety regulatory bodies with bilateral international agreements on complementary standards.

The U.K. is currently part of the EU so falls under the EASA agency. When the U.K. leaves (or before) it will need to set up it’s own regulatory agency and there will need to be an agreement on standards between that new body and any market that planes fly into. On Brexit Day the U.K. will become a third party country and so the EASA will not have the jurisdiction to issue safety certificates or similar.

Even if the U.K. agency were to be set up now, by definition if there is “no deal” then there is no agreement between that agency and the rest of the world on complementary standards. “Self-certification” might work for getting a mortgage, but not in international air worthiness.

Edit: there might be a loophole where, for example, wings are manufactured in the U.K. and then sent to Hamburg or Toulouse to the parent company for certification. The question then would be, is the EU allowed to import non-certified aircraft parts?

[Old Greg]

By having the products passed and approved for sale prior to purchase.
I've talked about standards on here before, but most leavers aren't interested in the impact of them.

https://forums.contractoruk.com/brex...ml#post2478089
https://forums.contractoruk.com/brex...ml#post2478137
https://forums.contractoruk.com/brex...ml#post2478146
https://forums.contractoruk.com/brex...ml#post2478179
https://forums.contractoruk.com/brex...ml#post2478186

As long as they get their blue passports, what does it matter?

[Zigenare]

They have their own safety regulatory bodies with bilateral international agreements on complementary standards.

The U.K. is currently part of the EU so falls under the EASA agency. When the U.K. leaves (or before) it will need to set up it’s own regulatory agency and there will need to be an agreement on standards between that new body and any market that planes fly into. On Brexit Day the U.K. will become a third party country and so the EASA will not have the jurisdiction to issue safety certificates or similar.

Even if the U.K. agency were to be set up now, by definition if there is “no deal” then there is no agreement between that agency and the rest of the world on complementary standards. “Self-certification” might work for getting a mortgage, but not in international air worthiness.

We still have the CAA, just saying like.

[meridian]

Airbus Out, Boeing In

We still have the CAA, just saying like.

Yep, we do. But even if they could possibly be recognised as a competent certifying authority (and I’m not sure they can, given that this work has fallen under EASA for over a decade) there is no agreement between them and every other international agency that currently recognises this.

“No deal” really means no deal.

[Old Greg]

Yep, we do. But even if they could possibly be recognised as a competent certifying authority (and I’m not sure they can, given that this work has fallen under EASA for over a decade) there is no agreement between them and every other international agency that currently recognises this.

“No deal” really means no deal.

The manufacturing sector needs to think outside the box and stop being constrained by the eurocrats. Look at this nonsense:

https://www.ft.com/content/8f46b0d4-...7-1e1a0846c475

Honda now fears that the border checks that could be introduced as a result of Brexit will clog up the process. If Britain were to leave the customs union, Honda estimates European parts will take a minimum of two to three days to reach the plant, and possibly as long as nine days. Delivery times of finished cars may also be just as unpredictable.*

Instead of being ruled by fear and unpredictability, they should innovate - they're in an old Spitfire factory for heaven's sake! Stoup using inferior imported European parts, and use the surplus Airbus wings - put the Great back into Great Britain!

[meridian]

The manufacturing sector needs to think outside the box and stop being constrained by the eurocrats. Look at this nonsense:

https://www.ft.com/content/8f46b0d4-...7-1e1a0846c475



Instead of being ruled by fear and unpredictability, they should innovate - they're in an old Spitfire factory for heaven's sake! Stoup using inferior imported European parts, and use the surplus Airbus wings - put the Great back into Great Britain!

Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was a documentary, far ahead of its time. :-)

[sasguru]

The manufacturing sector needs to think outside the box and stop being constrained by the eurocrats. Look at this nonsense:

https://www.ft.com/content/8f46b0d4-...7-1e1a0846c475



Instead of being ruled by fear and unpredictability, they should innovate - they're in an old Spitfire factory for heaven's sake! Stoup using inferior imported European parts, and use the surplus Airbus wings - put the Great back into Great Britain!

Doh! and double Doh!