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Looks like a 2nd referndum is coming

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    #11
    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Nigel Farage is a loser, an opportunist and a ******. He's an arch-Brexiter, worshipped by many Brexiters. It is interesting to note that even a total ******* ***** like him is warming to a second referendum.

    HTH.
    First you say he's a 6 star, then a 7 star, and finally a 5 star. You clearly like him a lot giving him that ,many stars. But Seriously which is he 5,6, or 7 star man

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      #12
      Originally posted by GreenMirror View Post
      Proves what an idiot he is. Nothing can stop the whinging and whining of anti-Brexit campaigners.
      Well, we've got a long way to go before we beat the 40 years of bleating from the other side haven't we.

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        #13
        So MPs will get two votes on May's deal and failing that the public will get two votes on brexit.



        If the votes still don't give 'them' what they want will there be a third vote for 'Are you really really sure you want to leave the EU?"?

        The way things are going the UK will vote to 'remain after all and sorry about the last 2 years (and counting)" just as the EU collapses under the debt. Ironically it's not PIIGS but Douchebank that looks likely to start the dominoes falling.

        Maybe tomorrow, I'll want to settle down. Until tomorrow, I'll just keep moving on.

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          #14
          This will help the remain vote, should there be a second ref linky.
          With another cold snap this winter, a second ref end of Feb would be good timing. Add to that the fact that 16 and 17 year olds who couldn't vote in 2016 can now vote and you can see why Brexiters are bricking it!

          The sad thing is though, whilst our parliament has been tied up with Brexit for 2 years nothing else has been going on. The NHS is struggling, every road is full of pot holes, this government is in paralysis due to Brexit. We need to move on, either accept this deal, beg Norway et al at to join their little band, or cancel Brexit.
          I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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            #15
            Question is; Is there enough time between now and March 29th to organise a referendum and get all the legislation through,
            If May's deal gets rejected there will be very likely general elections as well, which won't change anything at all, looking at the polls, so adding more lost time and chaos to the process.
            There also will have to be an internal leadership election in the tories before the general election

            And an internal leadership election in Labour after the election, as Corbyn will fail to profit from the current chaos, he gets finally outed

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              #16
              Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
              Question is; Is there enough time between now and March 29th to organise a referendum and get all the legislation through,
              If May's deal gets rejected there will be very likely general elections as well, which won't change anything at all, looking at the polls, so adding more lost time and chaos to the process.
              There also will have to be an internal leadership election in the tories before the general election

              And an internal leadership election in Labour after the election, as Corbyn will fail to profit from the current chaos, he gets finally outed
              Yes minister. We have a referendum already drafted...
              "A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices," George Orwell

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                #17
                Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
                Question is; Is there enough time between now and March 29th to organise a referendum and get all the legislation through,
                If May's deal gets rejected there will be very likely general elections as well, which won't change anything at all, looking at the polls, so adding more lost time and chaos to the process.
                There also will have to be an internal leadership election in the tories before the general election

                And an internal leadership election in Labour after the election, as Corbyn will fail to profit from the current chaos, he gets finally outed
                We will ask the EU to extend A50 and they will say yes as they will be hopeful that there is a 2nd ref that reverses Brexit. The EU don't want a no deal either, although they will cope better than the UK, so it's in their interest too to extend A50.
                I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
                  Question is; Is there enough time between now and March 29th to organise a referendum and get all the legislation through,
                  If May's deal gets rejected there will be very likely general elections as well, which won't change anything at all, looking at the polls, so adding more lost time and chaos to the process.
                  There also will have to be an internal leadership election in the tories before the general election

                  And an internal leadership election in Labour after the election, as Corbyn will fail to profit from the current chaos, he gets finally outed
                  Undoubtedly no.

                  The withdrawal act took months to get through parliament with hundreds of amendments to be voted on.

                  Gina Miller has went quiet lately after forcing parliament to have the final say on A50, looked clever then, now not so much.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                    Undoubtedly no.

                    The withdrawal act took months to get through parliament with hundreds of amendments to be voted on.

                    Gina Miller has went quiet lately after forcing parliament to have the final say on A50, looked clever then, now not so much.
                    Agree with your first point, though the EU have indicated that they would consider extending A50 if there was a specific route in place (i.e. a second vote for Parliament, or a second referendum had already been legislated for) and this would need to be timebound, preferably before June 2019 otherwise it gets messy with MEP elections due then.

                    Your second point is just incorrect. The verdict in the Miller case was that Parliament (and not May) had the authority to authorise the triggering of A50 (which Parliament then promptly voted to hand straight back to May ). It was Dominic Grieve and others in Parliament that forced the meaningful vote through their amendments to the EU Withdrawal Bill.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by minestrone View Post

                      Gina Miller has gone quiet lately after forcing parliament to have the final say on A50, looked clever then, now not so much.
                      FTFY.
                      It isn't about looking clever, it's about asserting the rights of the parliamentary democracy you live in.
                      Hard Brexit now!
                      #prayfornodeal

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