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Tim Martin Letter debunked

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    Tim Martin Letter debunked

    Before Christmas, Tim Martin, Chairman of Wetherspoons, sent a letter to every MP in the House of Commons:



    Dear Sir/Madam.I am writing to you in order to point out some egregious errors in the letter sent a few days ago to all MPs by Mr Tim Martin, founder and chairman of Wetherspoons. Mr Martin’s letter complains that during his appearance on the BBC’s Politics Today programme on 17 December 2018, the panellists said his claims were ridiculous. As the evidence I will present here will show, the panellists on the Politics Today programme were right to correct him because he ignores the extent to which tariffs are eliminated through agreements and also the relative level of tariffs applied by the EU compared to many other developed economies.


    Overview
    Not only is Mr Martin’s claim that 93% of imports from the rest of the world are subject to tariffs factually incorrect, he is also wrong about the tariff applicable to the specific goods he cites in his letter i.e. rice, oranges, wine, coffee and clothes.


    Before looking at the measures that eliminate tariffs, it must be understood that all countries with the exception of Singapore, Hong Kong and Macau employ import tariffs. New Zealand and Australia liberalised but did not eliminate their import tariff regimes in the 1990s after historically being very heavily protectionist; much more so than the EU. Historically, the UK showed preference to Empire trading and immediately before it joined the EEC on 1 Jan 1973, the United Kingdom’s tariffs for goods originating from outside of the Commonwealth were higher than the EU’s Common External Tariff. The EU’s agricultural tariffs are lower than that of Norway, Switzerland and Canada and many others. If we take into account tariff elimination due to FTAs and exceptions for developing countries it becomes evident that the EU is among the least protectionist markets in the World. On the World Bank index, EU nations occupy positions 143 through to 170 out of 177 nations, (1st being most protectionist). And as I understand it, the Dept of International Trade has no plans to change the tariff regime inherited from the EU after Brexit as this would immediately abandon most of the leverage this country would need in order to make free trade deals with other countries so that they reciprocate and lower their own tariffs.


    Trade Agreements
    Under GATT Article I, members of the WTO must treat all other members with equal favour so that no one country experiences a higher or lower tariff than any other. But GATT article XXIV states that countries that enter into a free trade agreement or a customs union can eliminate tariffs without prejudicing Article I so long as the tariff elimination covers substantially all trade between the parties in question. Developed countries may also apply tariff reductions to developing countries under the General System of Preferences (GSP).


    The EU has free trade agreements (FTAs) with more countries (69 including the recent Japan deal) than any other trade bloc or country on the planet. Furthermore, the EU offers developing countries the most generous preferential trading schemes in the World. Under Everything But Arms (EBA), which applies to the 49 least developed countries, tariffs are entirely eliminated for all goods except weapons. Under GSP most tariffs are eliminated and many significantly reduced. FTAs and preferences for developing countries mean that imports from 135 sovereign countries are mostly free of tariffs. As a panellist on the programme pointed out the EU itself is the largest free trade area in the world. If we also take these tariff eliminations due to FTAs and exceptions for developing countries into account it becomes evident that the EU is among the least protectionist markets in the World.


    Specific Goods
    I now turn to the specific goods cited by Mr Martin in his letter: Rice; oranges; coffee; wine; clothes.


    Rice
    Under EU Regulation EC 972/2006 unlimited quantities of basmati rice from India and Pakistan may be imported into the EU entirely free of duty. The amount of rice imported under this scheme amounts to about 450,000 tonnes annually, which is approximately half of all rice imports to the EU and the majority imported into the UK. Of the remainder, approximately 300,000 tonnes are imported from Cambodia, Myanmar, Guyana, Surinam and several other countries tariff-free due to FTAs and the aforementioned schemes for developing countries.


    Oranges
    With regard to oranges, we have free trade agreements with South Africa (which, being in the Southern Hemisphere, supplies the EU outside of the European citrus season), Egypt, Israel, Morocco, Tunisia, Peru and Mexico. Due to these arrangements, imports from these countries almost entirely tariff-free (or rarely subject to tariffs under the Entry Price System).


    Coffee
    There are no tariffs on green coffee beans. While there is a tariff of 7.5% on roasted coffee beans it is entirely misleading to raise it as a concern as there is virtually no inter-continental trade in roasted coffee beans. This is not because of tariffs but because once coffee beans are roasted they immediately begin to lose value and quality. Coffee is therefore generally roasted in close proximity to where it will be consumed. Indeed, for this very reason, Costa Coffee has one of the largest coffee roasting factories in Europe in Basildon. In any case, tariffs do not prevent the import of coffee from 42 of the top 50 Coffee exporting countries because those countries benefit from zero duty access to EU markets.


    Wine
    Wine from Chile and dozens of other countries is imported into the EU tariff-free and without quota. From South Africa, it enters tariff-free under a quota amounting to nearly 150 million bottles per annum. New Zealand and Australian wines do have a tariff but its effect on retail price is minimal. For an ordinary bottle of wine with an alcohol content of 13%-15% the tariff amounts to 9p per bottle. This compares with a UK imposed excise duty of £2.16 in 2018, rising to £2.23 on 1 February 2019. That's 25 times higher!


    Clothing
    Clothes are potentially liable to a tariff, but again they are not subject to this tariff when exported by a trade partner. About 60% of our clothing imports come from countries where the tariff does not apply. The EU of course, plus Turkey, Bangladesh, Cambodia and Pakistan are the most notable. Clothing manufacture is prevalent in much of the developing world. Bangladesh, for example, supplies around 13% of imports into the UK. About 60% of their clothing exports are destined for the EU. Bangladesh is on the EU's EBA scheme as a developing country and this tariff exemption allows Bangladesh and other countries benefiting from tariff elimination to compete on the world stage with China and other more prosperous countries.


    Conclusion
    Mr Martin’s claims about EU protectionism and tariffs are wide of the mark, and he seems to be given an inordinate amount of time to espouse them on TV without ever being challenged by experts. I hope this letter and the references will help correct that.Dear Sir/Madam.


    I am writing to you in order to point out some egregious errors in the letter sent a few days ago to all MPs by Mr Tim Martin, founder and chairman of Wetherspoons. Mr Martin’s letter complains that during his appearance on the BBC’s Politics Today programme on 17 December 2018, the panellists said his claims were ridiculous. As the evidence I will present here will show, the panellists on the Politics Today programme were right to correct him because he ignores the extent to which tariffs are eliminated through agreements and also the relative level of tariffs applied by the EU compared to many other developed economies.
    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

    #2
    I am writing to you in order to point out some egregious errors in the letter sent a few days ago to all MPs by Mr Tim Martin, founder and chairman of Wetherspoons. Mr Martin’s letter complains that during his appearance on the BBC’s Politics Today programme on 17 December 2018, the panellists said his claims were ridiculous.
    Sonia said it was "ridiculous to argue"

    What imbecile wrote this?

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      #3
      Originally posted by minestrone View Post
      Sonia said it was "ridiculous to argue"

      What imbecile wrote this?
      Tim Martin wrote the letter...
      Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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        #4
        Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
        Tim Martin wrote the letter...
        I can't argue with this level of stupid.

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          #5
          Originally posted by minestrone View Post
          I can't argue with this level of stupid.
          So you believe the crap in Tim Martin's letter then, doesn't surprise me at all
          Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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            #6
            Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
            So you believe the crap in Tim Martin's letter then, doesn't surprise me at all
            I'm able to cross reference 2 pieces of text.

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              #7
              IF you want an apology from the BBC you have to work and be specific.

              Dear Sir/Madam.I am writing to you in order to point out some egregious errors in the letter sent a few days ago to a

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                #8
                Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                IF you want an apology from the BBC you have to work and be specific.
                It wasn't to the BBC, it was to each MP, same as Tim Martin's to show that he was full of the proverbial crap. I can post all the references but decided to leave it up to the highly skilled Leavers on here to do a bit of research, if they can
                Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                  I can't argue with this level of stupid.
                  Tell me, do you sleep in your blinkers, or do you put them on fresh every day when you wake up?
                  I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Whorty View Post
                    Tell me, do you sleep in your blinkers, or do you put them on fresh every day when you wake up?
                    He rarely wakes up.
                    Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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