Ajilon - "Employed Consultant"

**malvolio** · 5 October 2006, 22:34

Ajilon and S3 are the spawn of the devil. Avoid... OK, not very helpful but eminently sensible advice.

But if you don't know the terms of the deal they are offering, and it appears not to apply to other people in ostensibly the smae job, why the hell are you thinking of accepting it?

**Troll** · 5 October 2006, 22:47

Stay well away from Ajilon and any of it's associates..............

**Mordac** · 6 October 2006, 07:46

not with a bargepole.

**expat** · 6 October 2006, 08:12

Originally posted by bert&ernie

Has anyone worked for Ajilon as an "Employed Consultant"?

I have a god chance of being offered a role through ajilon, but they are insisting on this employed consultant model. Basically, they would hire me as a permanent employee and contract me out to the client. Although the client has other staff from Ajilon who work as contractors, Ajilon have said this is not an option.

if anyone has any experience of working within this model, I'd appreciate your advice as Ajilon are not very forthcoming with the details and, to be honest, I just dont trust agents.

It's not an uncommon model in some countries, for example in France where clients' short- or medium-term requirements are usually filled by Software Houses ("SSII") rather than agencies. Contractors are usually taken on by those Software Houses, if need be, but they prefer to work with their own employees.

If you are their employee, you're just a permie employee, with all its good and bad points.

Ask yourself 2 questions (the 1st might be enough):
1. do you want to be a contractor or a permie?
2. if you want to be a permie, do you want to be an employee of this company?

**TinTin** · 6 October 2006, 08:47

ECM (Employee Consultant Model)

Just to clarify, Ajilon is the parent company of Computer People and a lot of other smaller recruitment agencies such as Jonathan Wren etc. It is part of Addecco, probably the largest recruitment agency. Some of the contractors remember CP as a cowboy outfit but from my experience and having worked for them, they are pretty much like any of the big boys, hard to deal with but when it comes to contracts, they've got a fair slice of them. Saying that you don't want to work for them, you miss out on 20% of the available jobs.
Going back to your original question, it's not just Ajilon, but others that have copied the EC model : Spring, Newell & Budge and a few other agencies. I have worked alongside with both of the above mentioned and have found the guys to be very professional, mostly ex-contractors that have signed up not because of lack of options but because as they said they wanted some sort of security but also exposure to different clients/environments/etc. From what they said the salaries are not that bad and they also offer generous benefits. If you are thinking about going permie, it's probably the way to go.
Not for the die-hard contractors, but how many will be left in a few years ?

**Troll** · 6 October 2006, 08:50

Originally posted by TinTin

it's probably the way to go.
Not for the die-hard contractors, but how many will be left in a few years ?

So to summarise - we are all doomed?

**TinTin** · 6 October 2006, 09:02

My prediction...

I am afraid so.

**ratewhore** · 6 October 2006, 10:02

Tell em to poke it. There's plenty of work out there for the skilled contractor...

**cojak** · 6 October 2006, 19:32

Saying that you don't want to work for them, you miss out on 20% of the available jobs.

By my reckoning that still leaves 80% out there...

Ajilon - "Employed Consultant"