Personal bio requested for team presentation

[malvolio]

Fascinating...

"Part and Parcel" basically means you can be shoved anywhere to do anything and the management don't have to give you a specific task to deliver. It doesn't mean you have to be some kind of superior entity divorced from the people around you, merely that you have a specific role to fulfil and can refuse any other one.

It was defined in the SLS case rather nicely, where the contractor switched to being under IR35 when they stopped giving him SoWs at each renewal.

[northernladuk]

It was defined in the SLS case rather nicely, where the contractor switched to being under IR35 when they stopped giving him SoWs at each renewal.

You mean the JLJ case?

[Bee]

I don't understand what’s the issue!!!

You can do a bio but it's not required for contractors, with is, they are given you an opportunity to feel part of the organization.
In my opinion this is very important to "break the ice".

In one of my previous contracts I was always invited for their activity days, happy hours... etc... and of course, introduce myself on my first day.
This is common sense for me.

[northernladuk]

I don't understand what’s the issue!!!

You can do a bio but it's not required for contractors, with is, they are given you an opportunity to feel part of the organization.
In my opinion this is very important to "break the ice".

In one of my previous contracts I was always invited for their activity days, happy hours... etc... and of course, introduce myself on my first day.
This is common sense for me.

The issue is a little thing called IR35.

[SussexSeagull]

The issue is a little thing called IR35.

Problem is that I am finding more and more than contractors are happy to go along to (non project related) team meetings and the like and when you refuse to go you look miserable and uncooperative.

I am sure it is taking into consideration come renewal time so you are left with the choice of trying to stay out of IR35 or taking the risk to keep the client happier.

[Lance]

Problem is that I am finding more and more than contractors are happy to go along to (non project related) team meetings and the like and when you refuse to go you look miserable and uncooperative.

I am sure it is taking into consideration come renewal time so you are left with the choice of trying to stay out of IR35 or taking the risk to keep the client happier.

I go and don't say much. They don't go on my time sheet, and are not on any schedule or invoice.
If ever challenged it is simply a case of 'in case any H&S updates or governance/compliance changes I need to know about'.
I may have it wrong but I also consider it bad business to be seen to refuse these.

[northernladuk]

Problem is that I am finding more and more than contractors are happy to go along to (non project related) team meetings and the like and when you refuse to go you look miserable and uncooperative.

I am sure it is taking into consideration come renewal time so you are left with the choice of trying to stay out of IR35 or taking the risk to keep the client happier.

Sadly I know what you are talking about. As contractors are now the defacto standard way to resource projects every man and his dog has jumped on the bandwagon so we have raft of permacontractors that have no real idea about what they are doing. It's only going to get worse until HMRC find something that sticks. At that point there will a be a lot of very surprised and unhappy people. The Public Sector changes will be a perfect example of this. It's 5 months off and the number of people that don't know it's coming at all let alone understand it it frightening.

[SussexSeagull]

I go and don't say much. They don't go on my time sheet, and are not on any schedule or invoice.
If ever challenged it is simply a case of 'in case any H&S updates or governance/compliance changes I need to know about'.
I may have it wrong but I also consider it bad business to be seen to refuse these.

Depends on the type of meeting. No problem with going to meetings that might cover what you are doing then move onto other things but I refuse point blank to go to meetings where they discuss the long term future of the company.

[Lance]

Depends on the type of meeting. No problem with going to meetings that might cover what you are doing then move onto other things but I refuse point blank to go to meetings where they discuss the long term future of the company.

Oh absolutely. I just delete the invites (don't send a decline as that is a bit rude). They shouldn't be inviting 3rd parties to those at all. It's probably an oversight by the inviter.

[malvolio]

You mean the JLJ case?

Ahhh, yes, cough, splutter...