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    Quote Originally Posted by MattZani View Post
    elaborate, please. what is?
    You aren't thinking like a business. For a start we are contractors. We don't have an employer, we have a client.

    They are buying a highly skilled resource to do what they want. If they are OK with that being done at home it means they are confident you will still deliver. They are paying for results so it doesn't matter if it's done at home or their office. They get what they paid for.

    Now if they are closed minded and don't think you'll do as well at home and that's one of your prime requisites then that gig is not for you. Dropping rate to provide a service that isn't what the client wants won't work.

    The same reasons above are why you don't need to drop your rate if its at home or the client. If they are happy with it they will pay. Coffee and the like is absolute peanuts. That stuff shouldn't factor in to highly skilled B2B contracts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladuk View Post
    You aren't thinking like a business. For a start we are contractors. We don't have an employer, we have a client.

    They are buying a highly skilled resource to do what they want. If they are OK with that being done at home it means they are confident you will still deliver. They are paying for results so it doesn't matter if it's done at home or their office. They get what they paid for.

    Now if they are closed minded and don't think you'll do as well at home and that's one of your prime requisites then that gig is not for you. Dropping rate to provide a service that isn't what the client wants won't work.

    The same reasons above are why you don't need to drop your rate if its at home or the client. If they are happy with it they will pay. Coffee and the like is absolute peanuts. That stuff shouldn't factor in to highly skilled B2B contracts.
    There may be more competition for home based contracts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladuk View Post
    You aren't thinking like a business. For a start we are contractors. We don't have an employer, we have a client.

    They are buying a highly skilled resource to do what they want. If they are OK with that being done at home it means they are confident you will still deliver. They are paying for results so it doesn't matter if it's done at home or their office. They get what they paid for.

    Now if they are closed minded and don't think you'll do as well at home and that's one of your prime requisites then that gig is not for you. Dropping rate to provide a service that isn't what the client wants won't work.

    The same reasons above are why you don't need to drop your rate if its at home or the client. If they are happy with it they will pay. Coffee and the like is absolute peanuts. That stuff shouldn't factor in to highly skilled B2B contracts.
    How many gigs could you have done equally well by working from home?

    and how many of those gigs were you actually allowed to work from home because of the reason above?

    In general, a good percentage of contracts could be done from home, but a very small percentage of those contracts are actually being done from home. That's because this is how it works in the real world.

    Call it client, call it employer...it's all a technicality. If you don't want to come to an agreement with them (like lower rate for wfh) you just sit on the bench. Anyone's free to take the best decision for their own business

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattZani View Post
    How many gigs could you have done equally well by working from home?

    and how many of those gigs were you actually allowed to work from home because of the reason above?

    In general, a good percentage of contracts could be done from home, but a very small percentage of those contracts are actually being done from home. That's because this is how it works in the real world.
    Yup that's fair although WFH doesn't work for me as I need to speak to people so not very effective. I'd guess full time WFH only works for very few roles.
    Call it client, call it employer...it's all a technicality.
    Maybe, but a very important learning point to those who haven't grasped it yet. They are very different things so an important technicality to get right first and then you can be a bit looser with terms.
    If you don't want to come to an agreement with them (like lower rate for wfh) you just sit on the bench. Anyone's free to take the best decision for their own business
    Indeed but as per your real world, not many clients will negotiate lower rates for WFH when there are a raft of people willing to work on site at a rate the client is happy to pay. If that's your only option vs sitting on the bench it's likely you are going to have a pretty difficult time contracting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernladuk View Post
    Yup that's fair although WFH doesn't work for me as I need to speak to people so not very effective. I'd guess full time WFH only works for very few roles.
    Issue, certainly within software development is that not all information you require is fully packaged up or indeed available ahead of starting the contract. The more "domain model info dump" you require means interacting and talking to permies; yes, can use phone, Slack or my preferred option, email but for the most part face to face is not so much "expected" but "encouraged".

    Due to family circumstances I commute every day so don't work too far from home. Milage is certainly nice to claim.

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