Originally posted by mudskipper
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What to do when non-payment from end client during last week of working...
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Also here are all the threads other people have started in the same position.. There is, unforunately, a lot of them. Might be something that will help you in there...
agent not paying site:http://forums.contractoruk.com/business-contracts - Google Search'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Good advice so far. I'd proceed on the basis that the agency should pay you regardless of anything else and if they want to argue it then they can do it in court.
The opt out is important, if it was signed but it was after you were introduced to the client then it may not be valid.
1. Do a search for "Dunning" on this site. Dunning is the process of chasing a debt and you aren't the first one who has been stiffed by a client/agency.
2. Get a solicitor to write a threatening letter to the agency. One that comes to mind is Thomas Higgins who will do it for £2 + VAT. Don't expect any advice from them for your £2, but they will send a stern letter for you and that will put the frighteners on the agency.
3. Take it to small claims court, see Money Claim Online - you can start legal action quite cheaply. Hopefully the agent will just cave in when you threaten court action.
4. Name and shame the agency here we always like to know about agencies which screw their contractors.Free advice and opinions - refunds are available if you are not 100% satisfied.Comment
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Originally posted by Wanderer View PostThe opt out is important, if it was signed but it was after you were introduced to the client then it may not be valid.
4. Name and shame the agency here we always like to know about agencies which screw their contractors.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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What to do when non-payment from end client during last week of working...
Three things.
1) Are you opted out? It does make a difference and it is remarkably difficult to comply with all the steps to get a contractor opted out. This topic is covered elsewhere so I won't flog it to death.
2) Are the end client disputing that you worked, or the quality of your work?
3) Your umbrella company are your employer, what do they say about it as your contract is with them, not the agency.Comment
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostAgent should be on your side as it is his commission that has evaporated for those days as well.
Yet my contract stated: no timesheet, no pay.Contracting: more of the money, less of the sh1tComment
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Send agency a letter pointing out that the time was worked and that payment is due (this is provided that payment was on a time based rate).
When the debt is due then send them another letter stating that:
- time is of the essence
- that you will charge interest in line with the Late payment of commercial debt legislation. This is currently 8% over BoE base rate.
- state that if payment is not made you will take them to court and request the court costs are added to the judgement
Await reply. Repeat the above.
Start court action.
The judge is within their rights to strike out any clause of the contract e.g. the one that says timesheets need to be signed in order to gain payment.
If you want the money you have to be prepared to take the court action.
Better still, all contract companies should have insurance that covers legal costs for the pursuit of unpaid debt. It saved me a lot of grief a while ago when a rather unscrupulous agent decided my company should provide them with commission for the next 6 months and they were going to keep my company's last month fees to cover the cost. They ended up paying all my costs plus £900 in interest, all because they thought the crap in their contract gave them the right to.
Lesson - just because you sign a contract it doesn't mean it is legal or will stand up in court.
Edit: you could also potentially sue the end client for loss but more complicated and worth a chat with a solicitor first.Comment
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Originally posted by VectraMan View PostNL UK has changed his answer 5 times. The first one wasn't helpful at all.
The agent probably doesn't want to upset the client, and will be hoping you roll over. Don't. You should be paid for the work you did, and possibly the rest too if your contract specified a notice period that they didn't stick to.Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by psychocandy View PostWrong. You're due money for time worked not for notice period not worked. Not saying its not worth a tilt at the lot but those 4 days are somewhat different.Comment
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Originally posted by GB9 View PostBetter still, all contract companies should have insurance that covers legal costs for the pursuit of unpaid debt. It saved me a lot of grief a while ago when a rather unscrupulous agent decided my company should provide them with commission for the next 6 months and they were going to keep my company's last month fees to cover the cost. They ended up paying all my costs plus £900 in interest, all because they thought the crap in their contract gave them the right to.Comment
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