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    #21
    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    Of course if UKIP were to get rid of farage and put a working class brit loving socialist in charge things might be different.This is the one thing that is holding back UKIP from true electoral success - nicktyrone.com
    Farage must be distraught that someone else is doing the everyman, honest, straight talking, non-political elite thing much better than he ever could.

    Dismissing Corbyn as a no-hoper strikes me as more than a little dangerous. The best reason not to support him is that he really doesn't appear to be up to the job, even more than the last bloke.
    Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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      #22
      Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
      They are slightly caught out by him. If they ignore him or encourage him in the hope that labour will implode and it backfires there will be hell to pay. Instead the Tories are simply treating him for what he is - a British hating socialist from a bygone era. I very much doubt they are at all worried about him as they now have the centre of the political spectrum all to themselves.

      Of course if UKIP were to get rid of farage and put a working class brit loving socialist in charge things might be different.This is the one thing that is holding back UKIP from true electoral success - nicktyrone.com
      Ever so slightly - they know exactly what they're doing and are not riled at all
      "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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        #23
        According to Private Eye, quite a few MPs have done the same thing because, like JC, they do not want to kneel in front of Her Maj for political reasons. Actually they genuflect rather than kneel, according to Portillo on Thursday (go down on one knee).

        Apparently Her Maj is "quite unfussed" by this, and the standard in these situations is for the MP to turn up with a walking stick and say he can't kneel due to bad knees or physical infirmity. This is accepted by one and all and the ceremony goes ahead.

        JC seems to have gone one further by not turning up at all, when he could have actually gone through the ordeal with his principles intact. Why has chosen to operate this way who knows. And did his acolytes publicise to make political capital, of did the press?

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          #24
          Originally posted by fullyautomatix View Post
          All this media hounding of Corbyn seems to be last first resort tactics of Tories and the corporate that support Tories to somehow stop Corbyn assuming power. Its obvious they are running scared of his popularity and his genuine politics. Its very exciting and I cannot wait for the next elections.
          FTFY

          The General Election is a very long way away, therefore I think this anti-Corbyn that we're seeing is not aimed at the general public. Probably it is designed to encourage unhappy Labour MPs to cause trouble, and also fan the flames of the left's tendency for in-fighting.
          Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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            #25
            Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
            You don't really see anything beyond the binary do you. His actions are part of his anti britishness whereas clearly most of the Tories you mention were probably to busy doing something more important like partying in Pimlico rather than wanting to make a political point.
            Wasn't JC also doing something else, rather than just not going?

            I'm interested how you define "Britishness" though?


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              #26
              Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
              They are slightly caught out by him. If they ignore him or encourage him in the hope that labour will implode and it backfires there will be hell to pay. Instead the Tories are simply treating him for what he is - a British hating socialist from a bygone era. I very much doubt they are at all worried about him as they now have the centre of the political spectrum all to themselves.

              Of course if UKIP were to get rid of farage and put a working class brit loving socialist in charge things might be different.This is the one thing that is holding back UKIP from true electoral success - nicktyrone.com
              Doubt it, I've not seen a particular love of socialism amongst UKIP voters.

              As for Corbyn, he strikes me as just another creature of career politics, just outside of the usual Westminster circles. He is no more "connected" to the "working class" than was Miliband.

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                #27
                Originally posted by unixman View Post
                JC seems to have gone one further by not turning up at all, when he could have actually gone through the ordeal with his principles intact. Why has chosen to operate this way who knows. And did his acolytes publicise to make political capital, of did the press?
                As already pointed out, the fact that he didn't go along the other day means nothing. Cameron was admitted to the Privy Council in December 2005, but didn't bother attending and being sworn in until March 2006. It's not a matter of any urgency. It's just the Tory Press hooting and bellowing because they have nothing substantive to say against Corbyn.

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                  #28
                  Waiting for one about Cameron

                  Ben Okri salutes Jeremy Corbyn with poem called A New Dream of Politics | Books | The Guardian

                  They say there is only one way for politics.
                  That it looks with hard eyes at the hard world
                  And shapes it with a ruler’s edge,
                  Measuring what is possible against
                  Acclaim, support, and votes.

                  They say there is only one way to dream
                  For the people, to give them not what they need
                  But food for their fears.
                  We measure the deeds of politicians
                  By their time in power.

                  But in ancient times they had another way.
                  They measured greatness by the gold
                  Of contentment, by the enduring arts,
                  The laughter at the hearths,
                  The length of silence when the bards
                  Told of what was done by those who
                  Had the courage to make their lands
                  Happy, away from war, spreading justice
                  And fostering health,
                  The most precious of the arts
                  Of governance.

                  But we live in times that have lost
                  This tough art of dreaming
                  The best for its people,
                  Or so we are told by cynics
                  And doomsayers who see the end
                  Of time in blood-red moons.

                  Always when least expected an unexpected
                  Figure rises when dreams here have
                  Become like ashes. But when the light
                  Is woken in our hearts after the long
                  Sleep, they wonder if it is a fable.

                  Can we still seek the lost angels
                  Of our better natures?
                  Can we still wish and will
                  For poverty’s death and a newer way
                  To undo war, and find peace in the labyrinth
                  Of the Middle East, and prosperity
                  In Africa as the true way
                  To end the feared tide of immigration?

                  We dream of a new politics
                  That will renew the world
                  Under their weary suspicious gaze.
                  There’s always a new way,
                  A better way that’s not been tried before.
                  Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                    #29
                    Christ on a crutch

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                      #30
                      I don't think they go down on one knee. The last person to do that was Paul McCartney
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