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The What's your favourite Jeremy Corbyn policy thread

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    #21
    Originally posted by barrydidit View Post
    Here's a nice idea which has been submitted by some Momentum persons for a British RT to counter the establishment propaganda

    As you have seen whilst the anchors and pollesters keep saying that Jeremy is unelectable, they want their narrative to come true. For that, they campaign against Jeremy and his policies either by not giving adequate airtime or by giving airtime to people who oppose Jeremy and his ideas for social justice. Let's be frank here - we are dealing with a highly resourced well funded adverse media, who are capable of destroying our dreams.
    Dream spoiler
    The Chunt of Chunts.

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      #22
      Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View Post
      Dream spoiler
      There's so much good stuff on there, I hardly knew where to start

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        #23
        The latter has a pretty trivial cost in relative terms, the former is a much more complex issue than just cost to the NHS
        I didn't lump them together both should go. I remember being shocked at the cost of births that were for 'non-domicile' mothers. It's staggering. And that's just births. The former may be complex but the largest organisation (in terms of spend and number of employees) in the world should be able to handle that surely?

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          #24
          As you have seen whilst the anchors and pollesters keep saying that Jeremy is unelectable, they want their narrative to come true. For that, they campaign against Jeremy and his policies either by not giving adequate airtime or by giving airtime to people who oppose Jeremy and his ideas for social justice. Let's be frank here - we are dealing with a highly resourced well funded adverse media, who are capable of destroying our dreams.
          Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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            #25
            Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
            The NHS will go under if there is no social care.

            Some form of convalescence care is needed for people - elderly, disabled (physically or mentally) and just temporary broken - to keep them out of hospital and to stop them bed blocking.

            The NHS either chucks people out too early so they come back, or can't find
            support so they bed block and lose their mobility/catch a serious infection.
            Agree with this.

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              #26
              Originally posted by fullyautomatix View Post
              The NHS is very unsustainable in its present state. Various governments have used the NHS as a vehicle for garnering votes and winning elections.

              The NHS concept is actually very good. The population would be more happy if they have a state funded safety net for their health issues. What needs changing is the issue of funding.

              I would say, and Jeremy was actually enthusiastic about this when I last spoke to him, NHS should make the first £250 of any treatment to be self funded. Anything above that is state funded. If you go to the A&E because of a cough, get charged 50 quid. Same for flu, Gonorrhea etc etc. But if its a heart attack or cancer which potentially can cost thousands to treat, you are only paying the first 250.
              Disagree with this. Ensuring people are healthy and well benefits everyone. Putting people off going to the hospital is surely not the answer. It should be a national goal to fund health care for all.

              I'm happy to pay more in taxes. Agree NHS and social care are in a bad way but more effective investment is required.

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                #27
                Originally posted by fullyautomatix View Post
                The NHS is very unsustainable in its present state. Various governments have used the NHS as a vehicle for garnering votes and winning elections.

                The NHS concept is actually very good. The population would be more happy if they have a state funded safety net for their health issues. What needs changing is the issue of funding.

                I would say, and Jeremy was actually enthusiastic about this when I last spoke to him, NHS should make the first £250 of any treatment to be self funded. Anything above that is state funded. If you go to the A&E because of a cough, get charged 50 quid. Same for flu, Gonorrhea etc etc. But if its a heart attack or cancer which potentially can cost thousands to treat, you are only paying the first 250.
                Stupid idea as:
                1. Those with infectious diseases won't get treatment until they have caused an area-wide emergency.
                2. Those who are under 18, over 65, on low incomes or with specific exempt diseases will still have to be exempt.
                3. Those who aren't in those categories but who medical staff either screw up or delay diagnosis will sue to get their initial treatment fees back, as why would you pay to see someone medically trained if they refuse to or don't have the knowledge to help you?

                If you want to decrease NHS spending then:
                1. Tackle the obesity problem that is causing the NHS to spend around 11% of funding on type 2 diabetes.
                2. Sort out social care so people aren't bed blocking
                3. Put public health spending back into the NHS rather than making local councils responsible for it - that way you can deal with 1 as well as other issues.
                "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                  If you want to decrease NHS spending then:
                  1. Introduce Euthanasia.......voluntarily at first and then see how we go.
                  ftfy
                  “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
                    ftfy
                    http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
                      ftfy
                      Starting with Corbyn.
                      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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