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    #61
    Originally posted by sasguru View Post
    Battle of the morons. Each one wants to to outbid the other in crass stupidity.
    Fear not sas. Your crown is safe.

    “The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”

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      #62
      Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
      How is it all these allergies have suddenly popped up in the last few years, when one never heard of them before that?
      You mean a bit like how smoking used to be good for you?
      Originally posted by MaryPoppins
      I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
      Originally posted by vetran
      Urine is quite nourishing

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        #63
        If you read older books there is often talk of "sickly children"... those who always seemed weak and frail. I wonder if those might have been undiagnosed allergies/intolerances/illnesses.

        And of course people just used to die a lot more often.
        Originally posted by MaryPoppins
        I'd still not breastfeed a nazi
        Originally posted by vetran
        Urine is quite nourishing

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          #64
          Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
          Pharmacists should be relevant as they offer professional advice on medication management, contraindication etc., and offer this for free for over the counter meds bought in pharmacies.
          The problem as recounted by Doctor & Pharmacist Friends is that people ask for Aspirin on prescription because they get them free. You can tell them its cheaper to buy them from Tesco, they don't care they aren't paying. people will go quite far for free.

          You can get sun tan lotion, cough medicine & baby milk on prescription as well.
          Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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            #65
            Originally posted by d000hg View Post
            If you read older books there is often talk of "sickly children"... those who always seemed weak and frail. I wonder if those might have been undiagnosed allergies/intolerances/illnesses.

            And of course people just used to die a lot more often.
            yep!
            Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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              #66
              Originally posted by d000hg View Post
              If you read older books there is often talk of "sickly children"... those who always seemed weak and frail. I wonder if those might have been undiagnosed allergies/intolerances/illnesses.

              And of course people just used to die a lot more often.
              The history of our understanding of coeliac disease is interesting.

              Humans first started to cultivate grains in the Neolithic period (beginning about 9500 BCE) in the Fertile Crescent in Western Asia, and it is likely that coeliac disease did not occur before this time. Aretaeus of Cappadocia, living in the second century in the same area, recorded a malabsorptive syndrome with chronic diarrhoea, causing a debilitation of the whole body.[26] His "Cœliac Affection" (coeliac from Greek κοιλιακός koiliakos, "abdominal") gained the attention of Western medicine when Francis Adams presented a translation of Aretaeus's work at the Sydenham Society in 1856. The patient described in Aretaeus' work had stomach pain and was atrophied, pale, feeble and incapable of work. The diarrhoea manifested as loose stools that were white, malodorous and flatulent, and the disease was intractable and liable to periodic return. The problem, Aretaeus believed, was a lack of heat in the stomach necessary to digest the food and a reduced ability to distribute the digestive products throughout the body, this incomplete digestion resulting in the diarrhoea. He regarded this as an affliction of the old and more commonly affecting women, explicitly excluding children. The cause, according to Aretaeus, was sometimes either another chronic disease or even consuming "a copious draught of cold water."[26][27]

              The paediatrician Samuel Gee gave the first modern-day description of the condition in children in a lecture at Hospital for Sick Children, Great Ormond Street, London, in 1887. Gee acknowledged earlier descriptions and terms for the disease and adopted the same term as Aretaeus (coeliac disease). He perceptively stated: "If the patient can be cured at all, it must be by means of diet." Gee recognised that milk intolerance is a problem with coeliac children and that highly starched foods should be avoided. However, he forbade rice, sago, fruit and vegetables, which all would have been safe to eat, and he recommended raw meat as well as thin slices of toasted bread. Gee highlighted particular success with a child "who was fed upon a quart of the best Dutch mussels daily." However, the child could not bear this diet for more than one season.[27][135]

              Christian Archibald Herter, an American physician, wrote a book in 1908 on children with coeliac disease, which he called "intestinal infantilism." He noted their growth was retarded and that fat was better tolerated than carbohydrate. The eponym Gee-Herter disease was sometimes used to acknowledge both contributions.[136][137] Sidney V. Haas, an American paediatrician, reported positive effects of a diet of bananas in 1924.[138] This diet remained in vogue until the actual cause of coeliac disease was determined.[27]

              While a role for carbohydrates had been suspected, the link with wheat was not made until the 1940s by the Dutch paediatrician Dr Willem Karel Dicke.[139] It is likely that clinical improvement of his patients during the Dutch famine of 1944 (during which flour was scarce) may have contributed to his discovery.[140] Dicke noticed that the shortage of bread led to a significant drop in the death rate among children affected by coeliac disease from greater than 35% to essentially zero. He also reported that once wheat was again available after the conflict, the mortality rate soared to previous levels.[141] The link with the gluten component of wheat was made in 1952 by a team from Birmingham, England.[142] Villous atrophy was described by British physician John W. Paulley in 1954 on samples taken at surgery.[143] This paved the way for biopsy samples taken by endoscopy.[27]

              Throughout the 1960s, other features of coeliac disease were elucidated. Its hereditary character was recognised in 1965.[144] In 1966, dermatitis herpetiformis was linked to gluten sensitivity.[27][38]
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease#History

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                #67
                Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
                Pharmacists should be relevant as they offer professional advice on medication management, contraindication etc., and offer this for free for over the counter meds bought in pharmacies.
                Are you medical Gregg?

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by OwlHoot View Post
                  How is it all these allergies have suddenly popped up in the last few years, when one never heard of them before that?

                  I reckon most of the time it is just a self-indulgent affectation, like vegetarianism, to make the "sufferers" feel different and special.

                  So yes, they should damned well pay for their (probably futile and unnecessary) diets and medicines.
                  Allergies are real, but you only understand what they mean when you are being given the list of foods you cannot have and the first thought that comes to your mind is "the list of the things I can eat fits on the back of a business card". And if food allergies weren't bad enough there are cats, there's pollen, dust, mold, etc. Having survived a nasty anaphylactic reaction I know fully well what it means and I'd rather not go through it again. I do pay for my medication, btw.
                  You're awesome! Get yourself a t-shirt.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                    Are you medical Gregg?
                    I imagine he has been watching the adds on the TV pushing Pharmacists as a cheap doctor so they can close more A&Es and walk in centres.
                    Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by minestrone View Post
                      Are you medical Gregg?
                      Are you relevant?
                      Hard Brexit now!
                      #prayfornodeal

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