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Computer industry 'faces crisis'

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    #11
    Originally posted by Ardesco
    To me the fact it comes from the BCS means it is probably half truths and wild assumptions
    BCS = The Professional Elite, according to them. I left because I worked in the real world.

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      #12
      I'd suggest that the BCS seems to be getting confused between the volume of IT people and the volume of competent/experienced IT people, which is somewhat bizarre given the position they occupy within the industry.

      If there was a genuine shortage of IT workers in the UK, there'd be a greater supply of jobs than people to apply for those jobs, which to me doesn't seem to be the case (except perhaps in highly specialised sectors of the IT industry).

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        #13
        Every BCS member I've worked with has been a plonker ...
        Hard Brexit now!
        #prayfornodeal

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          #14
          So why are young people in the UK choosing not to study IT, one of the more lucrative UK industries?

          Professor Shadbolt said it was partly due to poor teaching and called for a thorough review of the way in which it is taught in schools
          Oh, really?

          Maybe it's because they can see that there is no point wasting time and effort on building a career in IT only to see your job sent to India or done for peanuts by immigrants.

          You've come right out the other side of the forest of irony and ended up in the desert of wrong.

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            #15
            Originally posted by sasguru
            Every BCS member I've worked with has been a plonker ...
            Well it's not know as the Boring Cnuts Society for nothing

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              #16
              Originally posted by bogeyman
              ...done for peanuts by immigrants.
              Or done by peanuts for immigrants

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                #17
                Originally posted by AtW
                Nothing suprising - at the time of .CON bust few wanted to enter IT courses because situation was so dire and with 3 year lag now is the time this decision is felt by the industry which loves so much fresh grads who would work long hour for sh1t pay for the sake of 2 years exp, and best of all every new year new grad can be found.

                IT is certainly no longer a field where career is worth pursueing unless you love computers that much, but then again if that's the case then it is smarter to become a plumber or carpenter, work locally for cash in hand, have some physical exercises on fresh air, shag bored housewifes and do computer programming as hobby in the evening while zipping Bollinger Blanc de Noirs Vieilles Vignes Francaises
                I beg to differ, you need experiance for sure. But i didnt qualify from Uni, and My pay is pretty outstanding in context of general work. But you need a genuine love or drive to do it.. If you aint got zip, you wont get zip.
                To be or not to be... or get someone else to be, and take the slack for it.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by TheOmegaMan
                  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6155998.stm

                  "He said he feared that any shortfall in skilled IT professionals in the UK would lead to a loss of highly paid jobs to the emerging economies of India and China


                  Fukwit
                  Makes you wonder what the BCS have been doing for the past 6 years

                  There is no future in just programming in this country anymore, the outsourcers & ftv's have seen to that.

                  In my experience, more on the business IT side, most newbie grad's in the company i currently contract with (City based Finance co) seem to do a Business Studies course with one or two modules in IT The word 'Array' is not in their vocabulary!

                  Only the Business Analysis, system design & testing plus the day-to-day management of the outsourcers is kept in London IT office. Everything else is outsourced directly or indirectly to India

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by bobhope
                    So that should mean an upward pressure on rates?
                    No. more Indian & Chinese coming over for the unfilled posts.
                    Johnny Talibani Mumbai

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by sasguru
                      Every BCS member I've worked with has been a plonker ...
                      I can testify to that - I have a "senior" (read: getting caught up in the BS politics and loving it) developer who's desperately appliying for membership.

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