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    #11
    Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
    It didn't get through as it would have been considered anti-Semitic and Germany doesn't want to go down that road....
    It needs to be made illegal globally then - so Germany can follow suit.

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      #12
      Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
      It needs to be made illegal globally then - so Germany can follow suit.
      Heard of a country called Israel?

      Heard of the Holocaust?
      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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        #13
        Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
        Heard of a country called Israel?

        Heard of the Holocaust?
        If a practice is barbaric then it needs to be stopped. I appreciate this is a lower priority than FGM.

        Sometimes rules need to change. For instance, the Koran and Jihad could be clarified. Christianity and homosexuals. Jews and Shell-fish. There may have been perfectly good reasons for these in their time. However times move on.

        Lets say some religion circumcised girls and boys. Would you still think its okay so as not to offend them?

        If the person is an adult and consents, then its fine. Like wearing a Hijab.

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          #14
          Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
          If a practice is barbaric then it needs to be stopped. I appreciate this is a lower priority than FGM.

          Sometimes rules need to change. For instance, the Koran and Jihad could be clarified. Christianity and homosexuals. Jews and Shell-fish. There may have been perfectly good reasons for these in their time. However times move on.

          Lets say some religion circumcised girls and boys. Would you still think its okay so as not to offend them?

          If the person is an adult and consents, then its fine. Like wearing a Hijab.
          You don't change people's actions by just legislating.

          FGM is illegal yet people still do it.

          Drink driving is illegal and people in society in this country have made it socially unacceptable.
          "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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            #15
            Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
            You don't change people's actions by just legislating.

            FGM is illegal yet people still do it.

            Drink driving is illegal and people in society in this country have made it socially unacceptable.
            Agreed.

            It will take more than legislation. And I do understand this is a lower priority than other issues.

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              #16
              Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
              What about the baby? They get no say in the matter.
              That is the case. I was simply pointing out current law. The issue in this case was the doctor acted but did not have the agreement of both parents - seems fairly clear cut.

              MGM must be made illegal.
              A fine example of the politics of vocabulary. By calling it Male Genital Mutilation, you instantly bring to mind the horrors of FGM in an attempt to equate the two. People can easily say they've no problem with circumcision, but when liberal campaigners with their desire to control everything in life to make sure it conforms to their moral compass use "mutilation", then, well - everyone against mutilation, surely?

              Why are they so against it? Because it's rooted in religion? Or because it makes them feel squeamish? There's certainly evidence that it can be medically beneficial. If it does more good then harm, then why not? https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.f9c0202496bc

              “If a vaccine were available that reduced HIV risk by 60 percent, genital herpes risk by 30 percent, and HR-HPV [high-risk human papillomavirus] risk by 35 percent” the authors observe, “the medical community would rally behind the immunization and it would be promoted as a game-changing public health intervention.”
              Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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                #17
                Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
                You don't change people's actions by just legislating.

                FGM is illegal yet people still do it.

                Drink driving is illegal and people in society in this country have made it socially unacceptable.
                When did FGM become acceptable? In fact when did FGM even appear in the UK?

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                  #18
                  Aren't American males routinely circumcised at birth?

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The_Equalizer View Post
                    When did FGM become acceptable? In fact when did FGM even appear in the UK?
                    Interesting Wiki article linky

                    Apparently it was used in the UK and US in the 19th Century to stop women masturbating.
                    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by stek View Post
                      Aren't American males routinely circumcised at birth?
                      They use to be I don't know if they still are.
                      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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