Bye PCG/ipse ...

[sasguru]

Oh yes, totally agree. Anyone trying to defend Labour's record on the economy really is living in a dream world. We're still paying for it.

Still, could be worse. We might have got Corbyn.

What a load of bollux.

[northernladyuk]

What a load of bollux.

Don't bother. Mal is Tory Confirmation Bias Man.

[eek]

What a load of bollux.

A structural deficit based on working tax credits and to a less extent £25bn a year in housing benefit...

It may not be so obvious down south but around here its remarkable how many people don't work more than 16 hours a week....

[MarillionFan]

I hope the door didn't slam your 4rse on the way out?

I've opened the door on this side....

IPSE scum

[WTFH]

but around on here its remarkable how many people don't work more than 16 hours a week....

It's not how many hours you work, but how many you invoice

[sasguru]

A structural deficit based on working tax credits and to a less extent £25bn a year in housing benefit...

It may not be so obvious down south but around here its remarkable how many people don't work more than 16 hours a week....

Working Tax Credits would not be necessary if late-stage rentier capitalism didn't pay non-entrepreneurial and non-creative management with purely political skills excessive sums compared to workers.
Housing Benefit started under Thatcher.
The massive debt the UK (and other Western countries) find themselves in is a direct result of the Derivatives crisis of 2007 which would not have happened without the liberalisation of the markets that happened in the 80s.
Not much has changed in the financial markets so the chances are that sometime another crisis will occur. This will finish off the West for good.
But there are still cretins who think that business as usual is an option.

[malvolio]

Working Tax Credits would not be necessary if late-stage rentier capitalism didn't pay non-entrepreneurial and non-creative management with purely political skills excessive sums compared to workers.
Housing Benefit started under Thatcher.
The massive debt the UK (and other Western countries) find themselves in is a direct result of the Derivatives crisis of 2007 which would not have happened without the liberalisation of the markets that happened in the 80s.
Not much has changed in the financial markets so the chances are that sometime another crisis will occur. This will finish off the West for good.
But there are still cretins who think that business as usual is an option.

Perhaps if you stopped using words like "cretins" and "morons" we might be more inclined to listen to your puerile and unsupportable ravings. But for the record Brown's mismanagement of the economy meant we couldn't react to the financial crisis effectively and ensured we are paying so much in loan interest that the balance of payments will remain negative for many more years to come. You may also recall he started with a positive balance bequeathed to him by those evil Tories...

[sasguru]

Perhaps if you stopped using words like "cretins" and "morons" we might be more inclined to listen to your puerile and unsupportable ravings. But for the record Brown's mismanagement of the economy meant we couldn't react to the financial crisis effectively and ensured we are paying so much in loan interest that the balance of payments will remain negative for many more years to come. You may also recall he started with a positive balance bequeathed to him by those evil Tories...

Perhaps if you stopped being a cretin I might stop calling you one.

To prove you are a cretin, look at this graph, which compares Tory and Labour debt from the 90s to 2007.
https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/7...our-1997-2010/
What "positive balance" are you wittering on about?

Here are the numbers. Not that I think you are capable of processing them:

The UK’s sustained growth between 1997 and 2008 was fuelled by the importance of skills and new technology. Rather than just austerity, the government should focus on building human capital and innovation to support long-term growth. | British Poli

The balance of payments was way worse under Thatcher and has plummeted under the current lot of incompetents, even post recession.

[sasguru]

This is an interesting graph, it really shows the structural weakness of the UK as a whole, regardless of party:
Good luck with "that which must not be named".

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/natio...anceofpayments

[TheFaQQer]

were so uncooperative with HMRC that members couldn't even claim our fees as legitimate expenses

That's an interesting one.

To be classed by HMRC as a professional organisation which allows full reclaiming of fess paid, each organisation needs to disclose their entire membership database to HMRC so they can verify that whoever is claiming the expense really is a member.

Are you suggesting that IPSE should hand over the membership database to HMRC to co-operate?