Another gullible politician negotiating poorly with India

[sal]

Re "that the propaganda machine is feeding you" not at all I know its going on first hand in significant volume, how? I have been inside the Indian outsourcing movement. I suggest on the contrary its you who is choosing to believe a happy positive view of the world which is easily disproven by facts.

You need to learn more about school costs in India. And the reality of the hotspots around the better schools here such people try to aim for.

You are the one making wild guesses and generalisation based on prejudice not me.

Which facts? These? The most aggressive figure is £280M/year which is a drop in the bucket for NHS and there are other missuses of NHS funds that are far costlier.

Hot spots around good schools are fact of live anywhere in the world, if you try to convince me most of the Indian nationals are coming to the UK because of a particular school - you are failing. On the contrary I know Indians who are going back to India for several years so their kids can attend relatively cheap private schools that are superior to the majority of the UL private schools.

Point me to one wild guess i have maid or prejudice i hold against a foreigner? On the other hand your posts in this thread reek of prejudice and animosity towards Indians.

[sal]

so I have proven sal factually wrong on almost everything they said, and the discussion just descended into personal abuse against me

shame

I have yet to see a single fact in your posts, only wild speculations, unsubstantiated claims and examples of edge cases, trying to present the exceptions as a norm.

People can't help themselves to descent into personal abuse, since with each successive post you're digging yourself deeper and deeper.

[sasguru]

so I have proven sal factually wrong on almost everything they said, and the discussion just descended into personal abuse against me

shame

You've proven nothing except that you're a loser.

[CoolCat]

Which facts? These? The most aggressive figure is £280M/year which is a drop in the bucket for NHS and there are other missuses of NHS funds that are far costlier.

Hot spots around good schools are fact of live anywhere in the world, if you try to convince me most of the Indian nationals are coming to the UK because of a particular school - you are failing. On the contrary I know Indians who are going back to India for several years so their kids can attend relatively cheap private schools that are superior to the majority of the UL private schools.

Point me to one wild guess i have maid or prejudice i hold against a foreigner? On the other hand your posts in this thread reek of prejudice and animosity towards Indians.

the only prejudice I have against Indian nationals is because I have spent a lot of time with a lot of them up close. I have witnessed first hand their caste on caste racism. I have witnessed first hand their anti white westerner racism. I have witnessed first hand the dominant bullying styles of management. my prejudices are based on factual evidence, and a lot of first hand experience.

my prejudices are not based on a holier than thou trendy agenda

I, like the British population as a whole, am remarkably tolerant and inclusive

[CoolCat]

Which facts? These? The most aggressive figure is £280M/year which is a drop in the bucket for NHS and there are other missuses of NHS funds that are far costlier.

Hot spots around good schools are fact of live anywhere in the world, if you try to convince me most of the Indian nationals are coming to the UK because of a particular school - you are failing. On the contrary I know Indians who are going back to India for several years so their kids can attend relatively cheap private schools that are superior to the majority of the UL private schools.

Point me to one wild guess i have maid or prejudice i hold against a foreigner? On the other hand your posts in this thread reek of prejudice and animosity towards Indians.

facts: your starting argument was that they paid as much tax as locals, which I pointed out was incorrect. thats you getting the facts wrong. suggest you re read the exchange...

[Zigenare]

You've proven nothing except that you're a loser.

Wow, that was really cutting!
You've put a lot of effort into that witty retort, it'll take days for him to recover!

[CoolCat]

Wow, that was really cutting!
You've put a lot of effort into that witty retort, it'll take days for him to recover!

[sasguru]

Wow, that was really cutting!
You've put a lot of effort into that witty retort, it'll take days for him to recover!

Hi Minestrone
Let me guess, you're down the pub?

[Andy2]

Move on, re-skill in something hard, if you're capable, and you won't have to compete with 2nd rate Indians.
Simple.

Reskill to what ? Every single technical skillset is being outsourced.

[darmstadt]

the only prejudice I have against Indian nationals is because I have spent a lot of time with a lot of them up close. I have witnessed first hand their caste on caste racism. I have witnessed first hand their anti white westerner racism. I have witnessed first hand the dominant bullying styles of management. my prejudices are based on factual evidence, and a lot of first hand experience.

my prejudices are not based on a holier than thou trendy agenda

I, like the British population as a whole, am remarkably tolerant and inclusive

You could reword most of that and it would relate to western society. There may not be caste on caste racism but there is class on class racism and bigotry, there is anti-coloured racism in the west and there is definitely bullying styles of management in the west. In fact there are probably a lot of aspects of western working practices which those in other countries may find particularly repugnant too....